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Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting
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frclinks.com gives you links to most of them. Example: The Alamo results are here: http://www2.usfirst.org/2012comp/Events/stx/matchresults.html (stx is the short code for the regional). You can get different results by substituting different regional codes and years. |
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Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting
Is there a way to grab the data from all of the events?
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Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting
It strikes me that OPR might undervalue teams who exclusively pursue the Coopertition Bridge in qualification rounds, since that doesn't add to their score. Have you considered accounting for that, perhaps by adding twenty points to the score of any alliance that receives full coopertition points?
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Another thing it is semi-missing is foul points - in previous years, a team that tended to take penalties would end up with a negative OPR. But this year, since those penalties actually add points to your opponents, a penalty-heavy team might still have an apparently-high OPR. Or, if you are a team that tends to get fouled, you might have an elevated OPR despite never scoring a basket. Here's all the OPRs for this week. The number on the left is that robot's rank at its regional. Code:
0 OPR 341 32.8125 0 OPR 1986 26.2784 0 OPR 118 25.6594 1 OPR 1218 23.6265 1 OPR 16 22.9855 0 OPR 716 22.902 2 OPR 3528 22.6023 1 OPR 1477 22.3017 2 OPR 148 21.2954 0 OPR 3322 19.4138 3 OPR 488 18.699 3 OPR 1208 18.1549 1 OPR 58 17.088 2 OPR 131 16.7107 4 OPR 1730 16.511 0 OPR 3476 16.4207 2 OPR 486 16.3144 4 OPR 2468 16.3067 5 OPR 935 15.5293 3 OPR 885 15.4566 6 OPR 967 15.3269 0 OPR 234 15.0478 0 OPR 1918 14.9358 1 OPR 85 14.5958 7 OPR 1982 14.363 8 OPR 1987 14.3531 1 OPR 2496 14.3036 1 OPR 2751 14.2611 5 OPR 231 14.1442 4 OPR 319 14.0779 5 OPR 3467 13.725 6 OPR 2848 13.6591 9 OPR 1997 13.5443 2 OPR 2386 13.5017 3 OPR 772 13.4929 1 OPR 51 13.4107 4 OPR 2393 13.247 3 OPR 357 13.1717 6 OPR 3597 13.0425 2 OPR 1538 12.8677 5 OPR 4092 12.6507 10 OPR 3284 12.2517 7 OPR 126 12.1894 3 OPR 2485 12.1408 11 OPR 525 12.0171 2 OPR 33 11.9848 4 OPR 1726 11.9493 12 OPR 1108 11.8475 13 OPR 2345 11.8347 8 OPR 95 11.7941 14 OPR 1802 11.6632 9 OPR 175 11.3817 2 OPR 123 11.1897 5 OPR 2543 11.0539 6 OPR 538 10.9521 7 OPR 1501 10.915 3 OPR 3546 10.8166 3 OPR 1504 10.7889 6 OPR 1138 10.7744 10 OPR 811 10.5492 4 OPR 1647 10.3195 11 OPR 134 10.2537 12 OPR 3323 10.2166 13 OPR 2342 10.1822 4 OPR 862 10.131 15 OPR 1806 10.1184 7 OPR 3035 10.0895 7 OPR 1661 10.0641 8 OPR 399 9.98838 9 OPR 3328 9.98757 5 OPR 2016 9.9551 8 OPR 3103 9.88195 16 OPR 2949 9.75011 14 OPR 157 9.69735 10 OPR 1266 9.60731 11 OPR 3965 9.54659 15 OPR 3609 9.45004 8 OPR 337 9.36572 17 OPR 1985 9.10772 16 OPR 61 9.10239 18 OPR 3507 9.0431 9 OPR 447 9.03065 17 OPR 1493 9.00103 12 OPR 4161 8.93611 4 OPR 2246 8.92978 5 OPR 1684 8.91294 13 OPR 2984 8.8993 6 OPR 225 8.88361 9 OPR 3545 8.79667 19 OPR 1775 8.78996 10 OPR 704 8.76618 18 OPR 2791 8.74593 6 OPR 2337 8.68728 20 OPR 1825 8.67203 7 OPR 70 8.33683 14 OPR 3453 8.27547 7 OPR 87 8.26135 8 OPR 3568 8.25133 21 OPR 1984 8.24363 5 OPR 3618 8.22496 22 OPR 2996 8.2217 8 OPR 714 8.14243 15 OPR 4276 8.11717 9 OPR 2590 8.08921 9 OPR 1506 8.04759 16 OPR 3647 8.03452 17 OPR 4056 7.94523 10 OPR 834 7.79931 11 OPR 1923 7.77921 10 OPR 2137 7.67652 18 OPR 2827 7.55455 11 OPR 314 7.53413 23 OPR 2395 7.49949 11 OPR 3478 7.43161 19 OPR 1073 7.41635 12 OPR 4342 7.33981 10 OPR 1261 7.33809 6 OPR 2000 7.23826 12 OPR 3582 7.2377 7 OPR 4362 7.08925 13 OPR 1640 7.04481 11 OPR 547 6.94494 24 OPR 2346 6.81529 20 OPR 1519 6.7423 19 OPR 1372 6.74147 14 OPR 1143 6.66163 25 OPR 1723 6.5577 15 OPR 4373 6.55164 12 OPR 3302 6.52255 12 OPR 4098 6.45841 13 OPR 3415 6.39837 13 OPR 2721 6.39155 13 OPR 292 6.33222 14 OPR 2283 6.33006 26 OPR 2357 6.30804 21 OPR 78 6.29179 22 OPR 166 6.25887 15 OPR 245 6.25599 27 OPR 3798 6.24511 20 OPR 2029 6.08383 21 OPR 4014 6.04743 14 OPR 4265 6.01163 22 OPR 702 6.00616 16 OPR 3743 5.90888 15 OPR 451 5.81798 8 OPR 2959 5.75464 9 OPR 4237 5.74805 10 OPR 3656 5.74522 11 OPR 904 5.61683 23 OPR 1247 5.60367 16 OPR 1811 5.41299 17 OPR 709 5.38007 18 OPR 1391 5.36037 24 OPR 213 5.30229 23 OPR 3255 5.30163 12 OPR 247 5.2979 13 OPR 4375 5.29578 28 OPR 2167 5.22451 24 OPR 4322 5.20897 25 OPR 4160 5.17384 26 OPR 4139 5.15424 19 OPR 1712 5.14555 29 OPR 4208 5.10633 16 OPR 3516 5.08752 27 OPR 3341 5.0114 14 OPR 1322 4.98369 25 OPR 238 4.93879 30 OPR 2457 4.92861 17 OPR 3843 4.90281 18 OPR 3984 4.87914 26 OPR 1831 4.8529 28 OPR 3226 4.82304 29 OPR 1622 4.77857 31 OPR 1764 4.7483 17 OPR 3552 4.69901 30 OPR 2102 4.67774 14 OPR 2767 4.67592 27 OPR 138 4.65928 20 OPR 2607 4.61024 32 OPR 3784 4.5993 15 OPR 4409 4.57113 19 OPR 1038 4.5209 28 OPR 133 4.51385 33 OPR 3973 4.45533 20 OPR 3675 4.41823 18 OPR 2936 4.38089 21 OPR 2229 4.3218 16 OPR 4327 4.28979 34 OPR 1769 4.27853 19 OPR 1817 4.26613 21 OPR 3844 4.26344 17 OPR 3452 4.24254 35 OPR 1737 4.19178 36 OPR 662 4.14502 37 OPR 2001 4.07234 38 OPR 1777 4.02699 20 OPR 3335 4.01941 29 OPR 1058 3.90721 21 OPR 2952 3.85609 22 OPR 3370 3.8319 23 OPR 3696 3.82853 18 OPR 1677 3.78573 19 OPR 1940 3.76324 24 OPR 4219 3.74796 30 OPR 501 3.72605 15 OPR 4376 3.7115 25 OPR 3028 3.70648 39 OPR 1094 3.68128 22 OPR 1249 3.64641 22 OPR 708 3.64145 23 OPR 2190 3.58935 31 OPR 1160 3.58679 23 OPR 4285 3.57779 16 OPR 494 3.56116 32 OPR 3008 3.52971 24 OPR 3140 3.49907 25 OPR 2856 3.47522 33 OPR 599 3.43749 26 OPR 2583 3.43391 31 OPR 1729 3.39535 27 OPR 3481 3.38129 17 OPR 1243 3.37743 18 OPR 302 3.36519 32 OPR 1512 3.36242 40 OPR 2874 3.3329 34 OPR 2599 3.29634 41 OPR 1448 3.22393 28 OPR 4332 3.21996 19 OPR 3537 3.16299 29 OPR 4063 3.15461 42 OPR 1847 3.15327 33 OPR 1824 3.1522 35 OPR 1572 3.13967 30 OPR 3325 3.10001 20 OPR 4408 3.08841 24 OPR 1168 3.04883 31 OPR 2833 2.92705 20 OPR 3534 2.88559 21 OPR 4398 2.85018 25 OPR 224 2.83951 36 OPR 3470 2.83926 43 OPR 938 2.82786 44 OPR 931 2.80833 21 OPR 1711 2.75234 22 OPR 4294 2.73222 26 OPR 2973 2.70523 26 OPR 3167 2.6859 27 OPR 3861 2.67374 22 OPR 3509 2.61858 28 OPR 1319 2.61674 45 OPR 1782 2.61639 46 OPR 2335 2.58183 27 OPR 2539 2.56513 37 OPR 3486 2.5247 28 OPR 869 2.50808 23 OPR 3601 2.46826 32 OPR 2985 2.42244 29 OPR 272 2.41714 30 OPR 1791 2.35183 38 OPR 3491 2.34163 23 OPR 1254 2.33288 39 OPR 2493 2.30368 33 OPR 3240 2.2469 31 OPR 293 2.18618 34 OPR 2789 2.13613 24 OPR 3536 2.08899 29 OPR 3856 2.0842 35 OPR 457 2.06238 34 OPR 1922 2.03924 47 OPR 3931 2.03851 36 OPR 3080 2.00541 48 OPR 1763 1.9889 35 OPR 1517 1.97575 36 OPR 4403 1.91872 24 OPR 2771 1.91226 40 OPR 4117 1.87589 30 OPR 2200 1.8717 25 OPR 4004 1.85159 41 OPR 2658 1.77461 49 OPR 2353 1.73731 37 OPR 1721 1.72587 37 OPR 3497 1.69755 26 OPR 3875 1.67222 38 OPR 3614 1.64624 25 OPR 1502 1.61057 26 OPR 894 1.60018 32 OPR 3123 1.58136 31 OPR 3116 1.5811 27 OPR 1528 1.57364 32 OPR 3824 1.56656 39 OPR 3834 1.56235 40 OPR 2461 1.54809 41 OPR 3999 1.44144 33 OPR 4020 1.42279 38 OPR 1307 1.39332 34 OPR 3227 1.38727 50 OPR 2004 1.32357 27 OPR 326 1.24579 28 OPR 3769 1.22155 39 OPR 3451 1.13336 29 OPR 322 1.09004 28 OPR 4377 1.01903 30 OPR 2604 0.98915 42 OPR 3021 0.982355 40 OPR 1289 0.909371 42 OPR 922 0.883356 35 OPR 2817 0.874394 43 OPR 2080 0.827922 36 OPR 3259 0.82676 44 OPR 653 0.808071 41 OPR 20 0.774002 43 OPR 2193 0.685041 44 OPR 3480 0.672862 45 OPR 691 0.649904 37 OPR 4025 0.647571 38 OPR 462 0.620802 29 OPR 4368 0.603022 51 OPR 3485 0.496661 39 OPR 4396 0.480684 31 OPR 703 0.472759 46 OPR 2839 0.417431 33 OPR 2600 0.411199 45 OPR 2969 0.390075 46 OPR 3353 0.375291 40 OPR 442 0.370534 47 OPR 4114 0.26188 48 OPR 1836 0.254138 41 OPR 4264 0.226234 42 OPR 3783 0.213931 52 OPR 937 0.208111 49 OPR 812 0.206054 47 OPR 3345 0.1956 42 OPR 1277 0.19379 48 OPR 2982 0.157963 34 OPR 4361 0.132835 30 OPR 4325 0.11449 43 OPR 3972 0.104074 53 OPR 1994 0.0929351 43 OPR 3585 0.070779 49 OPR 3700 -0.0139002 44 OPR 1466 -0.028104 31 OPR 4381 -0.0290566 50 OPR 3561 -0.0478725 54 OPR 1652 -0.0664144 50 OPR 2339 -0.076633 55 OPR 1810 -0.102099 32 OPR 3421 -0.118807 51 OPR 2787 -0.139598 33 OPR 468 -0.188401 34 OPR 1701 -0.189623 45 OPR 4245 -0.26317 35 OPR 1495 -0.424958 52 OPR 2966 -0.492256 35 OPR 4382 -0.495867 53 OPR 3943 -0.504787 54 OPR 2158 -0.552328 51 OPR 3967 -0.560277 55 OPR 4162 -0.576627 46 OPR 3966 -0.578922 56 OPR 1939 -0.59877 56 OPR 3029 -0.653681 36 OPR 2627 -0.670392 52 OPR 3849 -0.678526 53 OPR 3128 -0.784786 44 OPR 172 -1.13535 45 OPR 151 -1.15067 37 OPR 2611 -1.16379 47 OPR 4306 -1.25258 46 OPR 509 -1.26891 48 OPR 3821 -1.30548 49 OPR 2783 -1.3294 32 OPR 2405 -1.35365 54 OPR 3749 -1.39238 38 OPR 3535 -1.42261 47 OPR 1547 -1.59178 33 OPR 4389 -1.63187 57 OPR 3764 -1.70863 34 OPR 3767 -1.8307 50 OPR 3961 -2.01502 36 OPR 3607 -2.18351 51 OPR 415 -2.2332 58 OPR 1827 -2.29193 55 OPR 3704 -2.32525 57 OPR 2745 -2.36626 37 OPR 2234 -2.40579 58 OPR 499 -2.49012 59 OPR 3366 -2.56216 59 OPR 2410 -2.63983 60 OPR 2164 -2.70082 52 OPR 3797 -3.00048 61 OPR 2972 -3.18454 48 OPR 4034 -3.22404 60 OPR 3417 -3.33697 62 OPR 2560 -3.74052 61 OPR 4000 -3.89845 63 OPR 1785 -3.93474 35 OPR 3658 -4.84805 53 OPR 2483 -4.91803 62 OPR 4282 -4.98026 49 OPR 1153 -5.04162 Last edited by Bongle : 05-03-2012 at 07:29. |
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Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting
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You also don't have a way to determine which robots scored the points in each match, which is why we use OPR. You can use the OPR algorithm on coopertition points to get a "coopertition OPR" that should in theory determine which robots are doing the coopertition bridge balancing. |
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Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting
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If I could parse the twitter feed or if it was available at a more convenient place than twitter (anyone know a link?), then I'd be able to break out fun things like Bridge Power Ratings, Hybrid Ratings, Basket Power Ratings, Foul Ratings, and Coopertition ratings, which would probably help a prospective picking team pick out complementary teams. Come to think of it, that would be useful enough to be worth trying to do. Last edited by Bongle : 05-03-2012 at 08:24. |
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For example http://www2.usfirst.org/2012comp/Eve.../rankings.html By this theory, you could also do separate "OPR's" for Hybrid Points, Bridge Points, Teleop Points, and Coop Points. That would be interesting to see. |
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Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting
If you really want to, you can pull the standings, and take the CP points/possible CPs * Bridge Points. I think one could make a reasonable argument that each teams contribution towards teh Co-Op bridge should be worth 10 points if successful. Thus for Kettering, looking at the top 2 rankings, you could argue that 2337 deserves a 14CP/(2CP*12matches)*10 points or... 5.8 point bonus. 51 would get 10CP/(2CP*12matches)*10 or 4.17 bonus. You would need to do that in relation to all teams to get a full understanding, and even then it only tells a partial story.
OPR will be an interesting metric this year. While not as low a value as it was in 2009, I expect it will not be as strong a predictor as it was in 2008 or 2010. Smart teams will be looking at what is seeding high, and what is winning, and thus what are good predictors. Further discussion should probably be in an outside thread so as not to thread-jack Bongle any further than I have. Thank you Bongle for posting the OPRs. Last edited by IKE : 05-03-2012 at 08:56. Reason: Added thank you. |
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. In fact, I was completely wrong in my previous post - all you need to do an OPR-style calc is the sum of the points scored and what alliance partners that team throughout the regional, so the standings page will in fact be able to give us all the things we want wrt bridge/basket/foul/coopertition points. The individual match scores are actually not necessary (except in past years, FIRST didn't break out the sum of a team's scoring types, which is why I thought the lack of CP/HP/BP/FP in the match scores was a deal-killer).Last edited by Bongle : 05-03-2012 at 09:25. |
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Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting
Alright, starting work on the bridge/basket/foul/coopertition analysis component now. I'm pretty excited. Hopefully done in a few hours (8pm EST).
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Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting
Ok, here's v19. This includes, for 2012, the ability to rank teams on hybrid/bridge/teleop categories. I assumed that 2 coopertition points = 10 points of bridge scoring.
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Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting
OK, I'm running Win 7 x64. When I run OPRNet from a command line, I get an error saying MSVCP100.dll is missing.
I re-installed it, but the error keeps popping up every time I try to run OPRNet. Any clue what's happening and how to cure this? |
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