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Question Area next to ramp?

Has anyone been able to find details on the bars which separate the 2 halves of the field (from the ramp to the sides).

I recall something about there being 14" of clearance underneath a lower bar, and then maybe 22" to a top bar??

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14 3/4 inches under, not sure how high the yop is...i wanna say 16
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yes, 16 inches to top of barrier
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yes, although woodie said 14 under and 20 over...i believe the rule book should supersede what woodie said, but if the bar at the kickoff was 14 high, it sure looked like more than 2 inches from top to bottom.
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Thank for the numbers...

Are they in the book, and I've missed them? If so, where?

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The way the sturcture is....

Looking at a blue print in front of me, it is 20" to the top of the upper bar, then you take away 1.25" for the upper pipe, then you have a section with vertical supports down to 16" off the ground which is to the upper portion of the lower bar. The lower bar is also has an OD 1.25" so the total passable height is just less than 14.75"
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I just thought of something.....


If FIRST is trying to save money, then why do we have a 3,000 dollar playing field?
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theyres cheaper ways to do it. they mentioned this at our kickoff site in novi, first will be announcing this shortly...or so they say...
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Took this pic at the New Hampshire kickoff -- off on the angle of the shot, but it might help you.

Of course - go with whats in the rules and not the picture.

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Bigger than 1.25"?

Doesn't that look bigger than what it calls out on the drawings? On the drawings it calls out 1.25" OD but that looks slightly bigger to me. Your thoughts?
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Re: Bigger than 1.25"?

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Doesn't that look bigger than what it calls out on the drawings? On the drawings it calls out 1.25" OD but that looks slightly bigger to me. Your thoughts?
The tape measure must be defective
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Pipe Rail

In the 1 page game discription on the website it consideres this as the "Pipe Rail" if you talk to FIRST. Also I didn't find anything in the manual about this. So if you find it let us know.
On that picture that Aidan posted it looks like it is 14 1/2 up then 20 over?? It does look like 1.5 OD
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simple...assume that what woody said was correct (14" clearance) and design a bot that is less maybe 12" fairly simple...
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Re: Bigger than 1.25"?

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Doesn't that look bigger than what it calls out on the drawings? On the drawings it calls out 1.25" OD but that looks slightly bigger to me. Your thoughts?
Actually the drawing calls out "1 1/4" Schedule 40 aluminum pipe". The 1 1/4" refers to the approximate INTERNAL diameter, Schedule 40 refers to a particular standard the pipe conforms to. The standard deals mostly with the pressure rating of the pipe. But since the pipe is sold with the spec marked on it, it is often specified this way even when pressure is not involved.

The outer diameter in this case should be 1.900 inches. So Woodie's "just over 14 inches" is correct. Since the top of the lower bar is supposed to be 16" off of the carpet.

PVC pipe is also sold in Schedule 40 but because the mechanical characteristics of the material are different, so are the dimensions. But all diameters of Schedule 40 pipe should handle the same pressure regardless of the material they are made of.

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Pipe is usually measured by its inner diameter, where tubing is sold by its outer diameter . . . or something like that, right?

In any case, if it's still 14.75" to the bottom of the lower pipe at 20" to the top of the upper pipe, I don't care about the diameter We're sure about those dimensions, at least? I don't have field schematics at home, and as far as I can tell, they're not available online.
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