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Week 2 Strategies

What are some strategies we've seen effective in week 2 that we missed in week 1?
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Re: Week 2 Strategies

Well, triple balancing was a fair bit more common.
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Re: Week 2 Strategies

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Well, triple balancing was a fair bit more common.
I'd have to agree. Used twice in Portland QF1 to win the match and advance to the semis.
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Re: Week 2 Strategies

One that I hope never happens again, which is sabotaging the co-op bridge. Either you participate or you leave it alone.
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Re: Week 2 Strategies

We just scored as much as we could in quals and then balanced 1 or 2, whatever was need for the win. At some point, we gave up on coopertition and focused on being a desirable 1st round pick. In eliminations we sent 1 bot to play defense as safely as possible and then balance at the end. We first hit defense in the finals which was pretty effective against our fender bots. We played some 1 on 1 with them so our teammates could score. When it came to balancing, a bot parked near the bridge was really close to preventing us from balancing, but I'm not sure where the line between clean defense and a massive technical foul is. If nothing else, it can induce a panic attack into a drive team when they see no way onto the bridge and 2 bots balancing their bridge.
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Re: Week 2 Strategies

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I'd have to agree. Used twice in Portland QF1 to win the match and advance to the semis.
By the 8 seed alliance too.
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I'd have to agree. Used twice in Portland QF1 to win the match and advance to the semis.
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By the 8 seed alliance too.
It just took them to the finals. Stay tuned...
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Re: Week 2 Strategies

That's a really fast triple balance.
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It just took them to the finals. Stay tuned...
And tied the finals at one match apiece...
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And tied the finals at one match apiece...
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Re: Week 2 Strategies

And that's 6 triple balances, 6 match wins, 1 regional win in Portland for the #8 alliance.
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Re: Week 2 Strategies

In a major upset, the number 8 seed plowed through Oregon eliminations by relying almost entirely on the triple balance. Congrats to those 956, 3711, and 360!
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Re: Week 2 Strategies

I have a huge feeling that the teams that thought the three robot balance wont be to much of a factor would have a hard time if they couldn't do it because as shown in oregon shooting hybrid and then triple balancing could win the match, also in the waterford district they shot hybrid shot some teleoperated points and got on the bridge within the last 30 secounds to a final score of 103, Triple balancing is going to be huge for all the rest of the events
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Re: Week 2 Strategies

Triple Balancing is HUGE. I think a major factor at alliance selection is going to be triple balancing.

We (68, 226, and 1) scraped off a victory at Waterford in QF 3 Match 2 because team 1's robot died on the other side of the field, keeping the other team (3098, 573, and 3601) from balancing any robots on their bridge.
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Re: Week 2 Strategies

While triple balancing is undoubtedly an incredible point getting maneuver, don't over estimate it. In Oregon, 360, 3711, and 956 won partially because 1983 and 2046 missed some of their shots. If they had made just nine more points- only 3 shots- they would have won. Triple balancing is obviously a necessity, but devoting as much time as 3711's team did is probably a bad idea. A last minute rush to triple balance, while riskier, is probably the best strategy.
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