2012 New York City Regional

[jwfoss]

Congratulations to:
1635, 522, and our friends on 125 for using the unique combination of their robots designs to repeatably get the triple balance, ultimately resulting in the regional win.

333, 369, and our friends on 195 for making it to the finals after a long weekend of fixing and tuning in your machines.

The Aluminum Falcons could not have been happier with our performance in Qualification 8-0-0 and #1 seed with some good co-op balancing and offensive work. "Fat Swan" was running solid and required little to no repairs, and was connecting to the field quickly and for the entire match. We would like to thank everyone who played with us, and choose to balance on the center bridge with us.

We would like to thank and apologize to our amazing alliance partners 1676 and 329. Communication issues with the field (which I believe 1676 also suffered from), really took the wind out of our sails. After being eliminated in the semi-finals we spent the remaining time at NYC trouble shooting our robot, and are heading to CT with no clear solution. Without such problems we feel the results may have been significantly different. We wish you the best of luck the rest of your season.

[blazenight1]

Congrats to 1635, 125, and 522 for providing by far the most amazing set of elimination matches yet!!!!
Your methods proved successful with your partners on the seventh alliance by eliminating the second, third, and fourth alliances on your way to capturing your third ny regional win!

But probably most importantly is that you showed all the teams competing there, all 11 rookies and 54 veterans (not including yourselves ), that you didn't have to build a superstar robot that looks like it could compete in the NBA to succeed.

Over 99% of teams built a robot for mainly either offense or defense.
I'm glad you guys decided to be the exception.

It is truly refreshing to see an alliance win, not because of it's superstar captain's abilities (but credit is still appreciated ), but by a relatively simple robot that really any team could've built by themselves, without the need for some crazy sponsor or factory/warehouse of workers. Credit has to be given to the captain though, for recognizing the ability this team had managed to pack into their little robot

I look forward to seeing how you guys do at St. Louis!

[Jonathan Cheng]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P81VF...ature=youtu.be

[bradubv]

I am a mentor for 1635 and I wanted to thank you for the kind words in this thread and thank the 66 participating teams for making it a great event (and a lot of fun).

Our school's program had a reboot a couple a years ago so from a lot of perspectives we were practically a rookie team last year. We've learned a lot last season and continue to do so this year.

A special note of thanks to Team 3419, regional winners in Baltimore. They practiced balancing on the bridge with us during the build season, lent us a sensor for measuring the RPMs and helped us with some of our code.

And finally thanks to our alliance partners Teams 125 and 522. I don't think we would have done much better with the triple bridge balancing even if we had cooperated in the design stage.

[DonRotolo]

Originally Posted by jwfoss

We would like to thank and apologize to our amazing alliance partners 1676 and 329. Communication issues with the field (which I believe 1676 also suffered from), really took the wind out of our sails.

We found that the communications latency for 1676 from the field was around 170 mSec (normal is <10 mSec), so at least we have a symptom to work against.

Our approach will be to verify that our cRio isn't overloaded, that the radio is not getting EMI and is away from all metal. If that does not fix it, we'll see what else we can do.

[Andrew Bates]

I took a picture of team 333 after they accepted their Finalist awards. I however did not get an email to send the picture too before I left. If you're from team 333 please PM an email to send the picture to.

[Banderoonies]

Thank you everyone who rooted for us and once again THANK YOU TEAM 369 AND 195. I pray we could have the opportunity to seeing you guys next year.[/quote]


Team 195 Thanks both 333 and 369. It was an awesome ride with the both of you!

We also congratulate the winning alliance 1635, 522, 125. Their strategy with the triple balance was awesome!

[krudeboy51]

Hey guys take a look at this 1 sec double balance in semi-final 1-2 (I think I was pretty awesome): http://youtu.be/P_WWAOL_NDc

I thought we had lost that match.

[chenqingtian]

I'm the captain from team 1635,i want to thanks our alliance partners Teams 125 and 522, with out them, we can't make it happen, it is a team work, i have to thanks for my team members hard work on Scope, without there detail information we can't came up with the best Strategy to play the game. again we learn alot form all of u robot's idea. we want to thanks all 65 team for there well playing and i Hope we doing well in st louis too

[penguinfrk]

Originally Posted by GraciousPro

[R73] Compressed air on the Robot must be provided by one and only one compressor. Compressor specifications may not exceed nominal 12V, 1.05 cfm flow rate, 120 psi maximum working pressure. Off-board compressors must be controlled and powered by the Robot.

What do you call a team which violates this rule during the finals and gets caught not once but twice? Champion! Go figure.

I assume that if they were found in violation in the rule, the situation would've been corrected before they got on the field. Could you describe the violation more thoroughly (and objectively)?

Otherwise, live up to your username.

[Ninja_Bait]

I have a feeling this thread is going to go downhill soon...

[lohke]

Has anyone else seen that the 2012 NYC Regional is on the front page of Popular Mechanics
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...m_news#slide-1

[AlexJamesCross]

Originally Posted by Ninja_Bait

I have a feeling this thread is going to go downhill soon...

I have to disagree sir. This thread just stated that the rules may have been bent. There was report that 522 and their alliance were on the side rail as well but that was by someone in the crowd and i didn't see it for my self. Weather it is true or not is now behind us and i congratulate 522,125, and 1635 for their amazing win and their brilliant triple balance. If the rules were broken then I hope 522, us 369, 694 or any team that broke said rule would come forward in the views of gracious professionalism after all that is the whole view of first after all. So please don't insult any teams or posts on ChiefDelphi cause it is a forum and is ment to have people state their views.

[bodoggy]

As a mentor for team 1635 I would like to clear the air (no pun intended).
Team 522 had a legal on board compressor powered by the legal on board battery as per the rules, as I eyewitnessed it. After the first match in the quarter finals, they did use an external compressor to pressurize their on board storage tank in an innocent attempt to speed the process. They were duly warned by the judge that this procedure was not according to the rules and so the external compressor was removed from the building. Air pressure was provided for the matches by the on board compressor.

As for balancing on the bridge, the Arena Manual 2.2.5 The Bridges states "A Bridge will count as Balanced if it is within 5° of horizontal and all Robots touching it are fully supported by it." In addition, in the Game Manual 3.1 Rule (G11) states "Robots may not grab, grasp, grapple, or attach to any Arena structure. (Robots may push or react against any
elements of the Arena that is not protected by another rule.)"
The Robowizards bot was touching the side of the rail and thus was fully supported by the bridge and not in violation of any rules, so after careful review, the judges counted it as a balance. In contrast, in the very next match, part of 522's bumper was on top of the rail and the bridge was not deemed balanced, subsequently allowing the red alliance to win the match.

I just want to add my congratulations to the red alliance in the finals for providing a formidable opponent and great competition worthy of the mission of FIRST! Well done!

[jblay]

I think that there was nothing that alliance did which was not in the spirit of the rules and I am of the opinion that we shouldn't "lawyer the rules" in order to take credit away from that awesome alliance.

Also is there anyone here who doesn't think the off-board compressor rule is silly and really should not be enforced?
^
I disagree with my above statement now but feel like I should leave it or this thread becomes very confusing.

Just thought I would stir the pot a bit in the other direction.