Tips for Team Promotion to Scouts

[LeadU2Fun]

It didn't seem to matter at our regional. I don't know if teams weren't recording those stats. I know that the match you talked about we scored 16 of the 26 points. I'm seeing that I need to quantify all of our stats and get them out better. Some teams selected for the tournament only scored 2 pts and had history of technical issues. They did feed the balls during autonomous to the #1 robot but that was an easy recoding after alliance selection that we could have done as well. One problem I am seeing is that we relied on the idea scouting teams would see what we could accomplish. We will definitely be more proactive next year! Great feedback from everyone!

Originally Posted by LeadU2Fun

It didn't seem to matter at our regional. I don't know if teams weren't recording those stats. I know that the match you talked about we scored 16 of the 26 points. I'm seeing that I need to quantify all of our stats and get them out better. Some teams selected for the tournament only scored 2 pts and had history of technical issues. They did feed the balls during autonomous to the #1 robot but that was an easy recoding after alliance selection that we could have done as well. One problem I am seeing is that we relied on the idea scouting teams would see what we could accomplish. We will definitely be more proactive next year! Great feedback from everyone!

....That match was hypothetical. i made it up. What you are describing to me doesn't seem accurate. I am in no way calling you a liar, but there are some things you say that don't look 100% accurate. I have never seen a regional where the not as good robots are chosen for alliances over the good ones.

Also, that is a great goal. Be proactive next year. You can't rely on the other team's scouters. Go up and show them yourselves.

[MrForbes]

As an aside, you might also make sure your team scouts your own team's performance as objectively as you scout the other teams...then you'll see where you fit in, and you'll get a better idea of how other teams see you (assuming they are doing performance based scouting).

I talked with the scouting people on a couple of the higher seeded teams, they definitely were looking at the field performance of the other teams, and basing their alliance selection largely on that.

[JamesBrown]

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256

....That match was hypothetical. i made it up. What you are describing to me doesn't seem accurate. I am in no way calling you a liar, but there are some things you say that don't look 100% accurate. I have never seen a regional where the not as good robots are chosen for alliances over the good ones.

It happens all the time, I don't have any recent examples but two that I remember from a few years back, 2007 Boston Regional team 1919 picked a team with their first pick who had not scored all regional, and another team with their second pick who had not only not scored but had been penalized multiple times for a net contribution of -30 points. All three bots had netted a total of -13 points through the qualification rounds. Many better scorers were on the board at both of their picks. Notably 125 placed the 6th most rings at the regional and was picked by the 3rd seed with their second pick.

It even happens to good teams, 47 made a mistake with their second pick at Championships in 2005 picking a bot that was averaging 1-2 tetras a match when there were many better scorers available.

SOme times it is a mistake, sometimes it is bad scouting, some times it is due to teams picking friends instead of the best alliance available, all in all it does happen.