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Re: Week 4 OPR - All regionals and districts

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Just wondering what happened to us on the hybrid and teleop scores? 1056 hit 17/17 in hybrid for 10 points and I'm sure a few partners threw something in. We also only missed one shot (dunk) the entire tournament. You have us at 12th on the OPR but missing on the others. 28 points sounds about right for what we were putting in per match. Sorry we didn't qualify for worlds so we could show our dunker and wheelie bridge dropper. Should have listened to my partner, sorry Maui High, in that first match of semi's. Although Hawaii has the lowest average OPR, I think the top five could go up against anyone. Aloha
I think your math is a little off. It is literally impossible to go 17/17 in hybrid and only get 10 points...
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Re: Week 4 OPR - All regionals and districts

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I think your math is a little off. It is literally impossible to go 17/17 in hybrid and only get 10 points...
10 points (2 two pointers) in all 17 matches I think is what is meant.
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Re: Week 4 OPR - All regionals and districts

Pretty sure Lavapicker means each hybrid period they scored 10 pts...
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Re: Week 4 OPR - All regionals and districts

Yep, we drove up to the bumper in hybrid, lifted our arm pneumatically and used belts to spit out two balls into the middle goal 17/17 times. Only missed one shot the entire tournament which has to be close to a record too. Our whirling fingers of elastic tubing we extended to collect balls made us pretty effective at collecting balls too. We used pneumatics to wheelie up and over the bridge to drop it too. Very nice design that worked all tournament but alas, we'll not be at worlds to show it off. Even Lebron and Koby don't win it every year which gives us some solice.
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Even Lebron and Koby don't win it every year which gives us some solice.
LeBron has yet to win "it" in *any* year.

Cue Koko Ed...

I'd love to know a way to determine elimination round OPR, but it's probably just as easy to post videos of the matches and say "Here, this is what we did". Go figure, I did that.

We serendipitously "found something" in the semis and finals in Wisconsin, and I think our driver is eager to continue it. I'm very much looking forward to Queen City.
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I'd love to know a way to determine elimination round OPR
For any given event, the alliances in the elims don't change. If you attempted to setup and solve Ax=b, you would find that A is rank deficient. There is no unique solution.

Translated into English: elimination data provides no insight into which team on the alliance is doing the scoring. So you can't calculate OPR from that data alone.



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LeBron has yet to win "it" in *any* year.

Cue Koko Ed...

I'd love to know a way to determine elimination round OPR, but it's probably just as easy to post videos of the matches and say "Here, this is what we did". Go figure, I did that.

We serendipitously "found something" in the semis and finals in Wisconsin, and I think our driver is eager to continue it. I'm very much looking forward to Queen City.
Given good enough videos, you could simply calculate the exact number of points scored by each robot.
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Given good enough videos, you could simply calculate the exact number of points scored by each robot.
Indeed, but such good videos aren't always available for all events.

It's fairly clear how many we score in Wisconsin in the vids I posted elsewhere, even though the angle is blar. The webcast folks did say they hope to share an archive of the event footage at some point in the future. Can't wait for that!

I guess the solution is for everyone to share more elimination round videos so we can see exactly how good teams are during crunch time!
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Re: Week 4 OPR - All regionals and districts

the spreadsheet says our overall OPRs are 17.67 and 17.04 but the week 3 thread says our OPR was 11.25 for portland, which is what OPRNet says... and the first post in this thread says our OPR was 23.37 for seattle, which is also what OPRNet says...

so why are the numbers all so different?

we performed much better in seattle since we were working fully for most of our qualification matches, whereas in portland we were fully working only for our last 3 matches... so i can understand the 11.25 to 23.37 jump, but i don't see the minimal difference from 17.04 to 17.67...
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17.31 is the average of your OPRs from Seattle and Portland, and the overall OPRs it gives you are your average, roughly, plus or minus .315.
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