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BOM?

Hi all,

As for our BOM, I have a few concerns..

Do we have to list KOP parts as well?
Since fasteners and small objects similar in fashion under $1.00 ea are not counted, do I simply not list them?
We used 80/20 for our robot, should I list the entire length of 80/20 we used?
Is the BOM all inclusive; do I list EVERYTHING?

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Re: BOM?

List your KOP items with a cost of $0.00 and list the source as "KOP"

You need not include the bolts and fasteners on your BOM

You should include the entire length of 80/20 you used

Anything that is on the robot (except the fasteners and, I believe, bumpers) should be included in your BOM.


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Re: BOM?

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Is the BOM all inclusive; do I list EVERYTHING?
Pretty much yes. Go through it from top to bottom and list everything there is.
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Re: BOM?

Thanks for the quick reply!

Do I also include all the electronics as well, even though it's implied that everyone has them?
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Re: BOM?

Yes all control system parts. Most if not all will be KOP.
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Re: BOM?

Is there a rule somewhere that says you need to include KOP items on the BOM? I can't find one.....and we didn't include them on our BOM, and passed inspection at two regionals.
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Re: BOM?

There is a KOP page to the BOM template, which implies they want the KOP parts listed there.
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Re: BOM?

This note is on the front page of the KOP template:

"...All parts required by The Robot Section 4 should be entered into the BOM. The BOM helps Inspectors verify part use and legality on Robots.

Any item that was included in the Rookie KOP but not the Veteran KOP should be considered a KOP item and indicated on the BOM..."
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Re: BOM?

Since they don't ask to keep the BOM, is it ok to:

1) Show them the BOM in excel on a laptop
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2) Make the BOM during the regional, on say, the practice day?
We didn't get a chance to do the BOM before bagging.
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Since they don't ask to keep the BOM, is it ok to:

1) Show them the BOM in excel on a laptop
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2) Make the BOM during the regional, on say, the practice day?
We didn't get a chance to do the BOM before bagging.
We showed the inspector the BOM on a computer at Hatboro, but it is vastly preferred that you hand them a hard copy.
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Re: BOM?

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Is there a rule somewhere that says you need to include KOP items on the BOM? I can't find one.....and we didn't include them on our BOM, and passed inspection at two regionals.
Here's the relevant Q&A:

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Q. On the BOM template, it specifically says "Non- Kit of Parts Bill of Materials." Do we need to submit a separate KOP BOM, or should the entire BOM be listed as one? FRC2340 2012-02-19
A. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. The BOM template has been updated. The BOM should include all parts on the Robot, including parts from the KOP.
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Re: BOM?

I did read somewhere that is is acceptable to show the BOM on a laptop (although I'm sure the inspector would prefer a printed copy.)

You can work on it Thursday, but you cannot complete your inspection, and therefore compete, until it is finished.

Those that were involved with the design and construction of your robot should be able to complete the vast majority of the BOM from memory. I would recommend doing as much of it as possible from memory ahead of time (you'll be surprised how much you can remember, especially if you have a CAD model). Then you can fill in forgotten details at your event on Thursday. It will be much more difficult to look up details such as cost, model numbers, etc. at the event than it would be at home. It can be quite time consuming, and is not the way you want to spend your time at the event.
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Re: BOM?

I guess that's the problem...it was so much fun with the first BOM template finding a computer that could open the file, we never bothered to look at the updated BOM template.

Having it in .xlsx format was not a good move.
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I guess that's the problem...it was so much fun with the first BOM template finding a computer that could open the file, we never bothered to look at the updated BOM template.

Having it in .xlsx format was not a good move.
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=3


That is the link for a compatability pack for Office 2003 (files end in .doc, .xls, .ppt, etc) so it can open files created in Office 2007 or later (files ending in .docx, .xlsx, .pptx, etc.)

This should solve any and all future problems you would encounter with opening .*x files.
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I know all about the compatibility pack and have had it installed on my computer for several years, but for some reason it would not open this spreadsheet. Maybe it doesn't like Office 2000? I guess that is kind of old software..
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