[FRCTop25.com] Week 4 Results Broadcast LIVE tonight!

[Justin Montois]

We are now past the halfway point of the competition season! over 1800 teams have competed, but only 25 will make the cut!

The LIVE show will begin at 10:30PM EST. We have a couple awesome viewer videos to show and Mike and I are looking for topics to discuss during our breaks. Click the link below to tune in!

http://frctop25.com/MikeandJustinITM.html

If you have an idea for a topic of discussion, post here, email us at mikeandjustinitm@gmail.com or tweet @mikeandjustin

Also, tell your friends! The record viewership for this season is 130, we'd love to break that record tonight!

See you later!

[Mike Starke]

30 minutes to show time! Hope you all can make it!

[JB987]

Can't wait to see how far teams like ours who have only competed once a couple of weeks ago (or more) drop

Edit: Guess I know the answer now

[IndySam]

/old man rant

48 being listed as 15th is an absolute crime!

If they are not top ten too many of you are voting without watching video or doing proper research.


/ end old man rant

[mr.roboto2826]

Anyone else as surprised as much as I was by the rankings?

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by mr.roboto2826

Anyone else as surprised as much as I was by the rankings?

Gotta vote - I voted for you guys - prolific is too boring a word to describe your bot and drive team in the elims!

Free 2826! (and 2169, and 1592)

[indubitably]

I find it funny that 2056 has 1114 points

[Justin Montois]

Originally Posted by indubitably

I find it funny that 2056 has 1114 points

We found it funny as well!

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman

Gotta vote - I voted for you guys - prolific is too boring a word to describe your bot and drive team in the elims!

Free 2826! (and 2169, and 1592)

And 1918!

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman

Gotta vote - I voted for you guys - prolific is too boring a word to describe your bot and drive team in the elims!

Free 2826! (and 2169, and 1592)

I love Mike and Justin's show but until people take their voting more seriously the ranking will continue to be a joke.

[IKE]

Originally Posted by IndySam

I love Mike and Justin's show but until people take their voting more seriously the ranking will continue to be a joke.

That is a pretty strong statement. I took my voting very serious and had 48 at #12. I would say, in my opinion, they could have gone anywhere between 10&15. (which puts them in the top 1% of FRC teams that have played i.e. of 100 random teams, they would likely be #1 or #2).

I was glad to see that 842, 2169, and 2826 at least got honorable mentions as I felt they were easily top 20, and possibly top 15 material (roughly where I had them). 1918 also got a nod putting them in that between 25&30 limbo spot which is right around where I would put them. If I didn't have so many Michigan teams already in my list, they would have likely gotten in (67, 469, 1023, and 548).

I was suprised to see 1477 so low. In my opinion, the 2 wins, against the competition they saw deserved at a minimum a top 15 slot.

118, 111, 33, and 71 should have been ranked lower in my opinion based off of the performances I have seen from those teams. I can understand why folks have them in their top 25 (obviously 33 was not in mine), but I think folks were voting more on potential this time than actual performance. I would have preferred for this crew to have rounded out the 20-25 slots.

While this might seem like a fair amount of discrepancy, keep in mind, almost 2,000 teams have played so far. Many of the top teams have played 2 times. Top 25 is essentially the top 1%. Statistically speaking, you are not likely to see one of these teams at a 40 team regional. In fact if you go to 2 40 team regionals, there is a reasonable chance you have not seen a top 1% team. 5 positions out of 2,000 is a 0.25% error.

[qzrrbz]

good news is that, *if* the webcast is great, after Troy a lot of folks may have different opinions about 33, 67, 217, 469, 1718, 1918... :-)

[jspatz1]

Originally Posted by IndySam

I love Mike and Justin's show but until people take their voting more seriously the ranking will continue to be a joke.

It is common to regard others with a different opinion from your own as "not serious."

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by jspatz1

It is common to regard others with a different opinion from your own as "not serious."

It's more the fact that it's basically just voting for teams with name recognition and/or cool promo videos. Anyone who watched Orlando could tell you that 1592 was the primary scoring bot on that alliance, not 233. Yet it was Pink that was ranked the next week. Pink's all the way up at 11th now, while 1592 remains outside of the honorable mentions. I know that 233 improved significantly in Boston, but the name recognition bonus that teams like they receive really ruins the credibility of these polls.

You see the same thing with teams like 118, 111, 148, 71, 33, 610, and 399. They're all either very well known teams or released nifty promo videos. They all did well. But there are teams that have unquestionably outperformed them ranked beneath them.

[mr.roboto2826]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

It's more the fact that it's basically just voting for teams with name recognition and/or cool promo videos. Anyone who watched Orlando could tell you that 1592 was the primary scoring bot on that alliance, not 233. Yet it was Pink that was ranked the next week. Pink's all the way up at 11th now, while 1592 remains outside of the honorable mentions. I know that 233 improved significantly in Boston, but the name recognition bonus that teams like they receive really ruins the credibility of these polls.

You see the same thing with teams like 118, 111, 148, 71, 33, 610, and 399. They're all either very well known teams or released nifty promo videos. They all did well. But there are teams that have unquestionably outperformed them ranked beneath them.

^^^^^ This right here. Totally agree. Id also like to mention how 2481 was #1 seed at Wisconsin amazing auto consistency and accurate teleop shooter, and no recognition from what Ive seen. Definitely motivates me to vote more often and get others to vote!