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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

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I could see that you folks were not having a good day and I feel for you. We've been there many times too.

Hopefully, things will come together for your team tomorrow.

Any help needed, just ask.
Thanks after our second loss i just didn't care that much, wasn't gonna let the losses bother me and just improve the bot for champs and Queen City. I'm with the team right now... they are painting my other drivers toe nails lol *shakes head*

And do u have any advice for Poly-Cord? our poly cord has been the biggest problem. and im thinking we need to take some out. we have way to many pieces IMO.

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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

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And do u have any advice for Poly-Cord? our poly cord has been the biggest problem. and im thinking we need to take some out. we have way to many pieces IMO.
Whats wrong with your poly cord? Does it keep breaking? What kind of poly cord did you get? How did you connect the ends?
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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

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Whats wrong with your poly cord? Does it keep breaking? What kind of poly cord did you get? How did you connect the ends?
We are using yellow Polycord from Mccmaster-Carr (hollow). and using the metal connectors. which we were told that that was our problem. but then it also travels. it hasn't broken.
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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

Something is wonky in the scoring system about Q62.

The 6 teams in Q62 do not show a win or loss for that match, despite the match results showing blue alliance winning, 18-0.

Anybody know whats going on here? Its having a big impact on the top of the standings because 1241 is showing as 8th when they should be 5th or 3rd depending on if that match had a coop bridge.
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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

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Something is wonky in the scoring system about Q62.

The 6 teams in Q62 do not show a win or loss for that match, despite the match results showing blue alliance winning, 18-0.

Anybody know whats going on here? Its having a big impact on the top of the standings because 1241 is showing as 8th when they should be 5th or 3rd depending on if that match had a coop bridge.
This happened in another match, I will talk to the FTA tomorrow and try and get it solved.
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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

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Something is wonky in the scoring system about Q62.

The 6 teams in Q62 do not show a win or loss for that match, despite the match results showing blue alliance winning, 18-0.

Anybody know whats going on here? Its having a big impact on the top of the standings because 1241 is showing as 8th when they should be 5th or 3rd depending on if that match had a coop bridge.
The co-op bridge seemed to be behaving dodgy after it was rammed near the end of the day. I don't know if this is related or not, nor if you were there to see it, but parts were seemingly removed from the bottom and it appeared to be without power for the rest of the day IIRC. The match number seems about right to potentially coincide.
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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

haha...we had an programming error that got us one loss... I am really looking forward to tomorrow. I am really disappointed..at myself.
We have what I believe is a really good drive team and coach.

We finally did double bridge balancing, maybe tomorrow we will pull of a triple?

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I am really disappointed..at myself.
pah... for the one line of code that had a bug, how many didn't?
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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

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pah... for the one line of code that had a bug, how many didn't?
Our shooter was overshooting, and I knew it would happen , really screwed up just about everything... XD
Atleast we can still get the balls from the ramp, and get up the bridge..But still...

But man, did 772 have some bad luck! Good luck to you guys..nice pit btw..lol
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His "closing time" song yesterday in the pits
Oh no he didn't...

This song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAS-pvQ06s4

Good advice in that song - "Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end"...so Aaron, it's a new day!

Polycord walking - looking at your bot pic on CD, it does seem you might be running more belts than you need. We run no more than 4 belt loops (solid core) on any roller, with very good results.

We run two belts on the outside that "cradle" each side of the ball and two closer together along the centerline (sorry...centreline) of the ball that provide primary propulsion. You can see this belt layout in this photo - http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/37489

How deep are your grooves (how deeeeep aree yourr grooves I realllly neeed to learrrrrrn...)? You probably can't (easily) make the grooves themselves deeper at competition, but maybe removing some belts and attaching some loops of suitable material around the roller on each side of the remaining active grooves may help keep the belts in place? Many teams like to use wheel tread material like wedgetop or roughtop for this application.

Finally, I've got no experience with hollow polycord (I've heard you don't want to be around the metal barbs if a belt ever breaks - sharp little suckers!), but could your belts stand to be cut down a bit and rejoined to add a little more tension? I know belts do stretch over time - we had to trim an inch off of our belts and re-weld in Wisconsin. This solved some shooting consistency and jamming issues we observed in qualifying. Just remember - belts that are too loose are prone to walking and letting balls jam up the system. However, belts too tight can bog down rollers and put greater load on your conveyor motor(s) - for reference, a single RS-550 into a Banebots 26:1 gearbox powers our conveyor. Finding the perfect tension is key to effective conveyor performance.

I hope this gives you some ideas. Good luck today!
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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

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Something is wonky in the scoring system about Q62.

The 6 teams in Q62 do not show a win or loss for that match, despite the match results showing blue alliance winning, 18-0.

Anybody know whats going on here? Its having a big impact on the top of the standings because 1241 is showing as 8th when they should be 5th or 3rd depending on if that match had a coop bridge.
Fixed.
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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

Idk if anyone else is watching the standings, but I just want to point out it seems pretty likely 2056 refused to coop. (Disclaimer: I wasn't on the floor, I'm just guessing).
Also, am I crazy or was 3933 helping the blue defenders?

I like this game, the end of Qualifications is so exciting

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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

If 1114 either loses (unlikely) or fails to get CPs in their last match, then 3161 has a shot at leapfrogging them in the standings with a win and a CP (or just 2 QPs and 43 points in hybrid).

Matches to watch, in order for a non-1114/2056 top seed:
Q89: 3161 needs to win and cooperate (OPRNet call: 3161's alliance wins 48-34)
Q90: 1114 needs to get fewer than 4 QPs (OPRNet call: 1114's alliance wins 49-4)

Big shout-out to 3161 for managing to cooperate in every single one of their matches so far this weekend, and for having a pretty awesome robot too.

It's going to come down to their last match to clinch top seed for 1114 again. Rebound rumble's seeding system is fantastic - it makes it so exciting.

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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

All eyes on the co-op bridge in the next game. 3161 is first seed, and could potentially break up the so far dominating [potential] alliance of 1114 & 2056.

I sincerely hope there are no shenanigans going on, this is probably the most likely time for something like a GTR-E repeat to happen unfortunately.

EDIT: No one tried to balance with 1114. I don't know what to say. The teams were perfectly entitled to do it, but it's not something I personally like to see.
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Re: 2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

And it looks like the opposing alliance didn't cooperate with 1114, so these will be amazing elimination rounds. Barring some unusualness in alliance selection, we'll have 1114 and 2056 on separate teams. 1114's 8-regional streak or 2056's 13-regional streak will come to an end.
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