2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

[sgreco]

2056 is beast. Period.

[stundt1]

Congrats to the winners of the regional.

[Starke]

Originally Posted by sgreco

2056 is beast. Period.

1114 didn't move in Finals Match 2. Period*

*I agree with you, but there were other circumstances as well.

[hammerhead_399]

Congrats to the winning alliance. That was incredible.

Though I am really happy for 2056 keeping their record, I would have like to see them beat 1114 in a match where both alliances were at their best. Not with a robot tipped and one dead.

Still, what a set of exciting finals matches.

[Starke]

Originally Posted by hammerhead_399

Though I am really happy for 2056 keeping their record, I would have like to see them beat 1114 in a match where both alliances were at their best. Not with a robot tipped and one dead.

Thanks for perfectly stating what I am thinking! Totally agree!

[EpicLegacy]

Originally Posted by hammerhead_399

Congrats to the winning alliance. That was incredible.

Though I am really happy for 2056 keeping their record, I would have like to see them beat 1114 in a match where both alliances were at their best. Not with a robot tipped and one dead.

Still, what a set of exciting finals matches.

I would have loved to see a 3 match finals round, rather than the second match with a tipped bot and a dead bot...

but still congrats to 2056 on keeping there winning streak alive and to 2200 and 4001 for playing some great defense and doing some great balancing. good luck to all at the championships.

[George Nishimura]

Originally Posted by hammerhead_399

Congrats to the winning alliance. That was incredible.

Though I am really happy for 2056 keeping their record, I would have like to see them beat 1114 in a match where both alliances were at their best. Not with a robot tipped and one dead.

Still, what a set of exciting finals matches.

To be fair to 2056/4001/2200, they did win one match where everything was square.

But yes, it would have been more exciting to see everything fully functioning.

[Starke]

Originally Posted by Gnishi2011

And 1114 died towards the end didn't they, or am I misremembering?

1114 died right after hybrid. Might have even been during hybrid.

[George Nishimura]

Originally Posted by Starke

1114 died right after hybrid. Might have even been during hybrid.

I see. Cheers for the correction.

Originally Posted by thefro526

Before the balance, 1114's alliance was up at least 9 points... Then 1114's alliance missed the triple balance due to the end robot tipping off the bridge.

IMO, nothing against 2056, 1114 is the better of the two. 2056's game was nearly exclusively fender, which looking at other events isn't always a good strategy during elims whereas 1114's key shot is on the money along with their autonomous, or so it appeared.

In any case, those F1 may have been one of the most epic matches of 2012.

1114's alliance didn't balance and 2056 alliance did. Fair game in my opinion, the triple will always risk a tip. I agree that I think their alliance was the stronger one [I think a lot of the 9 points came from the hybrid difference], but at the same time they played no defence on 2056, which surprised me.

I also thought 1114 is a stronger robot than 2056, although I'm not so sure about that anymore. They're pretty close.

To weigh the two: 2056 can score from the key, they did it in one of the elims. I'm not so sure how accurate they are, but the time I saw they banked all the balls. 2056 also has a multi-ball auto if they use it, I haven't yet seen 1114 use one but they might also have it. 2056 however is slightly slower at shooting/getting in to position, and sometimes balls spill out from their robot when they drive around. Also, 1114 are better at balancing and co-op balancing, partly due to their claw mechanism. I think 1114 is a better qualification match bot, but it's close when it comes to elims.

As I said, I think that's the first time they've faced off this season [in qualis] where 1114 lost.

But they're frighteningly good robots, and what someone said about the quality in Canada is true. This is the first year where I've properly watched other regionals, and there are some seriously strong teams in Canada.

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by Gnishi2011

To be fair to 2056/4001/2200, they did win one match where everything was square.

Before the balance, 1114's alliance was up at least 9 points... Then 1114's alliance missed the triple balance due to the end robot tipping off the bridge.

IMO, nothing against 2056, 1114 is the better of the two. 2056's game was nearly exclusively fender, which looking at other events isn't always a good strategy during elims whereas 1114's key shot is on the money along with their autonomous, or so it appeared.

In any case, those F1 may have been one of the most epic matches of 2012.

[EpicLegacy]

Originally Posted by thefro526

Before the balance, 1114's alliance was up at least 9 points... Then 1114's alliance missed the triple balance due to the end robot tipping off the bridge.

IMO, nothing against 2056, 1114 is the better of the two. 2056's game was nearly exclusively fender, which looking at other events isn't always a good strategy during elims whereas 1114's key shot is on the money along with their autonomous, or so it appeared.

In any case, those F1 may have been one of the most epic matches of 2012.

I agree with 1114 being the better team overall as they were the 1st seed at both GTR east and Waterloo and very close at this event. However the only thing I have to point out is although 2056 is shooting mostly from the fender they have the ability to shoot from the key according to their specs on their website http://www.2056.ca/robot/general-lee.

and yes I agree the 1st match of those finals is the best match I have seen.

[Nawaid Ladak]

Originally Posted by mhat_ios

Is it just me, or did Karthik just do the most epic intro speech of all time for the finals?

It was pretty awesome.

-Michael

I'm still one who thinks this was the best intro I've ever seen:
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2007wat_f1m1
2007 Waterloo Regional Finals.

A huge congrats to 2056, 4001 and 2200 for winning one of the greatest finals at a regional even in FIRST History and winning the Greater Toronto West Regional. Congrats also goes out to 1114, 3161 and 2634 for putting on one of the greatest shows in those finals that FIRST has ever seen.

[TheMadCADer]

I liked getting to see 1114 and 2056 playing against each other, in their respective red and blue nonetheless.

[Racer26]

Originally Posted by TheMadCADer

I liked getting to see 1114 and 2056 playing against each other, in their respective red and blue nonetheless.

This is the first time 2056 has ever played a regional elimination match wearing blue bumpers. (EDIT: If you don't count the days before bumper color was the alliance marker)

They've won from the #1 alliance at each of their past 13 wins.

[George Nishimura]

They have also posted the new highest score this year for the blue alliance. See post below for correction who.