2012 Greater Toronto Regional West

[EpicLegacy]

Originally Posted by thefro526

Before the balance, 1114's alliance was up at least 9 points... Then 1114's alliance missed the triple balance due to the end robot tipping off the bridge.

IMO, nothing against 2056, 1114 is the better of the two. 2056's game was nearly exclusively fender, which looking at other events isn't always a good strategy during elims whereas 1114's key shot is on the money along with their autonomous, or so it appeared.

In any case, those F1 may have been one of the most epic matches of 2012.

I agree with 1114 being the better team overall as they were the 1st seed at both GTR east and Waterloo and very close at this event. However the only thing I have to point out is although 2056 is shooting mostly from the fender they have the ability to shoot from the key according to their specs on their website http://www.2056.ca/robot/general-lee.

and yes I agree the 1st match of those finals is the best match I have seen.

[George Nishimura]

Originally Posted by Starke

1114 died right after hybrid. Might have even been during hybrid.

I see. Cheers for the correction.

Originally Posted by thefro526

Before the balance, 1114's alliance was up at least 9 points... Then 1114's alliance missed the triple balance due to the end robot tipping off the bridge.

IMO, nothing against 2056, 1114 is the better of the two. 2056's game was nearly exclusively fender, which looking at other events isn't always a good strategy during elims whereas 1114's key shot is on the money along with their autonomous, or so it appeared.

In any case, those F1 may have been one of the most epic matches of 2012.

1114's alliance didn't balance and 2056 alliance did. Fair game in my opinion, the triple will always risk a tip. I agree that I think their alliance was the stronger one [I think a lot of the 9 points came from the hybrid difference], but at the same time they played no defence on 2056, which surprised me.

I also thought 1114 is a stronger robot than 2056, although I'm not so sure about that anymore. They're pretty close.

To weigh the two: 2056 can score from the key, they did it in one of the elims. I'm not so sure how accurate they are, but the time I saw they banked all the balls. 2056 also has a multi-ball auto if they use it, I haven't yet seen 1114 use one but they might also have it. 2056 however is slightly slower at shooting/getting in to position, and sometimes balls spill out from their robot when they drive around. Also, 1114 are better at balancing and co-op balancing, partly due to their claw mechanism. I think 1114 is a better qualification match bot, but it's close when it comes to elims.

As I said, I think that's the first time they've faced off this season [in qualis] where 1114 lost.

But they're frighteningly good robots, and what someone said about the quality in Canada is true. This is the first year where I've properly watched other regionals, and there are some seriously strong teams in Canada.

[TheMadCADer]

I liked getting to see 1114 and 2056 playing against each other, in their respective red and blue nonetheless.

[mhat_ios]

Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak

I'm still one who thinks this was the best intro I've ever seen:
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2007wat_f1m1
2007 Waterloo Regional Finals.

A huge congrats to 2056, 4001 and 2200 for winning one of the greatest finals at a regional even in FIRST History and winning the Greater Toronto West Regional. Congrats also goes out to 1114, 3161 and 2634 for putting on one of the greatest shows in those finals that FIRST has ever seen.

Wow. That is close, it is really hard to decide which one is better. Karthik seemed more confident in this year's one, but i like what he did with the medals in the '07 intro. Why is he so good at this stuff?!?!?!?!?

-Michael

[George Nishimura]

Originally Posted by mhat_ios

Wow. That is close, it is really hard to decide which one is better. Karthik seemed more confident in this year's one, but i like what he did with the medals in the '07 intro. Why is he so good at this stuff?!?!?!?!?

-Michael

He has a knowledge of the teams and the FIRST experience unlike any other MC I've seen.

[SamMullen]

For those of us who missed watching the finals matches, does anyone have a link to a video?

[Nawaid Ladak]

Originally Posted by SamMullen

For those of us who missed watching the finals matches, does anyone have a link to a video?

Finals 1.1
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21501483

Finals 1.2
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21501857

EDIT: I just realized this is my 1000th post. Hooray for me

[SamMullen]

Thanks!

[Racer26]

Originally Posted by TheMadCADer

I liked getting to see 1114 and 2056 playing against each other, in their respective red and blue nonetheless.

This is the first time 2056 has ever played a regional elimination match wearing blue bumpers. (EDIT: If you don't count the days before bumper color was the alliance marker)

They've won from the #1 alliance at each of their past 13 wins.

[George Nishimura]

They have also posted the new highest score this year for the blue alliance. See post below for correction who.

[RMiller]

Originally Posted by Gnishi2011

They have also posted the new highest score this year for the blue alliance, taking over from [I believe] 228/1884/549's score of 83 at WPI.

48/269/2826 had 98 in both finals matches in Wisconsin.
F1.1 also had 175 points scored between the two alliances in Wisconsin. Only thirty of those points were from the bridge.

[George Nishimura]

Originally Posted by RMiller

48/269/2826 had 98 in both finals matches in Wisconsin.
F1.1 also had 175 points scored between the two alliances in Wisconsin. Only thirty of those points were from the bridge.

My sources were wrong. I will edit.

[basicxman]

On behalf of 2200, thanks for all the congrats and a huge thanks to our alliance partners 2056 and 4001.

Shout out to our awesome sponsors, particularly GitHub and the United Association of Plumbers and Pipefitters Local 67, and Boca Bearings.

EDIT: We'll have the matches up on YouTube ASAP, they're currently on our ustream channel.

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by lemiant

I think they did it to screw 2056. In my mind they would have had a better alliance with 188, but they accepted 3161 so that 2056 wouldn't get them and would instead get stuck with 1241 or as a low captain. Good call? We'll find out.

I have a lot more to say about this amazing regional, but I wanted to address this comment directy.

We at 1114 never do anything "to screw" anyone, let alone our friends at Team 2056. We accepted Team 3161 because they have an amazing robot and were great partners for us. It's as simple as that. Also, Team 1241 has a great robot, no one would be "stuck" with them.

[Taylor]

I have to give kudos to the DJ. The music during finals certainly added to the excitement and drama. Well done.