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...going to focus on some other really exciting stuff.
Care to share?

Looks like a good start.
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Re: The FIRST Alliance - A whole new way to play

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Looks like a good start.
Were working on putting an official roadmap together that should be up in the next day or two.
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Looks awesome guys. Any plans on short URLs ala frclinks?

Also, posible bug report: Looks like the W/L/T column is only colored in the first row on team pages.
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Re: The FIRST Alliance - A whole new way to play

Cool site. Data for some events seem to be missing?

Example:
http://www.thefirstalliance.org/even...event-code=CAF
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Cool site. Data for some events seem to be missing?

Example:
http://www.thefirstalliance.org/even...event-code=CAF
I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Thanks!

If anyone else finds anything just send us an email at:
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Re: The FIRST Alliance - A whole new way to play

I have to agree with everyone else, this is a fantastic tool. Thank you so much. I have a couple of comments after a brief look.

1) I may have missed it, but is there a way to access data from past years? If not currently, will this be added later?

2) Currently on the elimination pages, it lists the alliances ranks as 0-7 instead of 1-8 when listing them in the upper left. Not a big deal, just something I noticed.

Again, great job with this, and I look forward to seeing how it progresses from here!
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I have to agree with everyone else, this is a fantastic tool. Thank you so much. I have a couple of comments after a brief look.

1) I may have missed it, but is there a way to access data from past years? If not currently, will this be added later?

2) Currently on the elimination pages, it lists the alliances ranks as 0-7 instead of 1-8 when listing them in the upper left. Not a big deal, just something I noticed.

Again, great job with this, and I look forward to seeing how it progresses from here!
Thanks for the feedback. Our database has records from previous years, but we're still building the api to accommodate that. That's one of the features I can tell you will be released shortly.

Someone else just sent me an email about the elims. Thanks so much guys!
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Re: The FIRST Alliance - A whole new way to play

I was just about to ask about previous years data.

Anyway, really cool site, and I'm sure it's going to get a whole lot better.

By the way, links to team websites are pretty broken. It tries to go to http://thefirstalliance.org/www.greybots.com when you click the link, instead of www.greybots.com (to use 973 as an arbitrary example)
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I was just about to ask about previous years data.

Anyway, really cool site, and I'm sure it's going to get a whole lot better.

By the way, links to team websites are pretty broken. It tries to go to http://thefirstalliance.org/www.greybots.com when you click the link, instead of www.greybots.com (to use 973 as an arbitrary example)
What browser are you using?

*EDIT: Nevermind, confirmed bug in multiple browsers. Will fix soon.
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Re: The FIRST Alliance - A whole new way to play

How is this different than the blue alliance? So far it looks like it shows exactly the same information.
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How is this different than the blue alliance? So far it looks like it shows exactly the same information.
I'd imagine they're touting the extensibility/access they are building into it?
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I'd imagine they're touting the extensibility/access they are building into it?
I can't really comment too much about this, but all I can say is that what you see is very much the tip of the iceberg. We're interested in building something much bigger than an statistics portal.

Roadmap will come soon.
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Re: The FIRST Alliance - A whole new way to play

So, um, elimination brackets, elimination alliances (that aren't even close to 100% correct), and rankings are what separates this from TBA? I don't mean to be rude, but I really don't see why I'd use this website instead of the currently existing resources.
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So, um, elimination brackets, elimination alliances (that aren't even close to 100% correct), and rankings are what separates this from TBA? I don't mean to be rude, but I really don't see why I'd use this website instead of the currently existing resources.
We're aware of the bugs you mentioned and are working to fix them. To address your other thoughts...

What you see right now is literally just the tip of the iceberg. An official roadmap is on the way, so I can't go in to too much detail. What I can say, however, our site is designed to be the most usable, reliable, and accurate (working on that one guys!), source for official FRC information out there.

We see the site's users being anyone who wants a quality and professional way to access important information they'll use for scouting or what not. We also envision creative types using our API for their projects, eliminating the painful process of writing their own solution to acquire FRC data.

We realize it's still pretty alpha right now, but we wanted to get it out to the community ASAP to build excitement, get feedback, and make The FIRST Alliance the best possible product it can be. Thanks for your feedback.
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Re: The FIRST Alliance - A whole new way to play

I like the "API first" objective. Having a standard API for all this data is a plus, and the website looks really clean. At the risk of making a judgment before you've laid out your vision and roadmap, I'm unsure what this brings to the table. TBA already has an API, and the results web pages on the FIRST site, while ugly, are stable and easy to scrape data from.

What we need is not more APIs or more apps, but more data.

If someone can come up with a stable API for the twitter data that works from year to year, or a means for teams to collaboratively upload their scouting data, then we'd have something exciting, perhaps even game-changing. But right now, it's just the same data over and over again.
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