2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

[Dancin103]

Originally Posted by stevend1994

With the qualification matches on Thursday, my question is will judges be making official rounds/interviews at all on Thursday?

Qualification matches start on Thursday?!?! What time?

[JR.]

Originally Posted by Dancin103

Qualification matches start on Thursday?!?! What time?

http://www.midatlanticrobotics.com/2...p-team-agenda/

4:00 PM

[coldfusion1279]

Originally Posted by Dancin103

Qualification matches start on Thursday?!?! What time?

4-6 PM. My guess about 2 matches per team. A nice little bonus if you ask me.

[Dancin103]

Originally Posted by JR.

http://www.midatlanticrobotics.com/2...p-team-agenda/

4:00 PM

Oh sweet deal! I must have looked right over that!

[The Lucas]

[quote=dellagd;1156054]

Originally Posted by Dancin103

I applaud this
I wonder why teams like 341 still register in spite of this. They already won the Boston regional.

Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux

Seriously? You're questioning why a team wants to play in their region's championship event? This is a competition you know.

357 is looking forward to playing with all of the great teams from the MAR district events, especially some of the NJ teams we haven't seen yet. We will not be attending the Championship event, so this is it for us this year. Good luck to all the teams competing!

Last time I checked, this event is called "Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship" not the "Mid-Atlantic Region Qualifying Event". This is about the best MAR teams competing for the first ever MAR championship. It is an honor to qualify and compete in this special event. Sure, the top performers will earn CMP qualification spots awarded, but that is far from the main purpose of the event.

Those that are looking at MAR champs as simply a qualifier of CMP are underestimating what is in front of them. Every team at MAR champ has elimination experience, making the 12 qualifying matches more like a 3 day elimination tournament. Outside of FiM, teams have never seen anything like this (except for the few teams in the region that have make the pilgrimage to IRI). My most mind blowing observation when I started watching the Michigan State Championship, is that quality of play in the qualifications is clearly better than division qualifications (many "reasonably astute observers" would agree). Sure the division will produce a better elim field of 24, but during the quals those 24 are spread out among the a huge division (now more than 100 teams).

MAR is about half the size of FiM, but I still expect consistent quality from the teams and highly competitive qualification matches. The teams are familiar with each other, so strategies and counter-strategies will have more opportunity to develop. I also expect a stronger 24 team elim field than any of the regionals, many of which had more than 54 teams.

I wish 103, 555 1143 & all the other qualified teams could attend, but understand that they cannot. As great as this event will be, we will always know it would have been even better with them. I hope the scheduler gives my teams (365 & 4342) matches with/against all the teams we haven't had a match with this year (somehow at 37 team Chestnut Hill, 365 & 341 were never in the same match). This should be a fun new experience for all teams.

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Gogo broken quote chain!

The messed up quote names are pretty funny. I made it a point to multi quote so I could see what names show up, but they were correct.

[Alexa Stott]

Originally Posted by waitwhat?

The 2012 MAR Regional Championship will be on webcast at the following link:

http://www.powercord869.com/webcast/

If anyone has any questions please feel free to PM me. Everything should be up and running for the Thursday matches.

"Good Luck to everyone and see you all at the competition!"

(Now I'm knowingly quoting the game animation) haha

Thanks for providing the webcast for all us poor souls who won't be able to make it!

[DonRotolo]

Originally Posted by dellagd

I wonder why teams like 341 still register in spite of this. They already won the Boston regional.

Perhaps they are showing their unwavering support for MAR in its first year. Not everyone in the area fully supports MAR, and by attending they are sending a clear message that they do.

Originally Posted by Wayne C.

Perhaps the MAR group should look towards giving a free registration to the MAR Championship to the winners of the Qualifier tournaments.

I know of at least one excellent team not attending Philly because of lack of funding, so this suggestion has real merit. I will be sure to bring this to the MAR Board; I urge others to do so as well - they'll all be in Philly.

[MOEhat]

looking forward to the MAR championship. it's gonna be tough going up against other good teams. hopefully 365 and 341 get in a match together!

[Carol]

Originally Posted by DonRotolo

I know of at least one excellent team not attending Philly because of lack of funding, so this suggestion has real merit. I will be sure to bring this to the MAR Board; I urge others to do so as well - they'll all be in Philly.

There are grants available from MAR to help teams pay for the MAR Championships. Many teams have already taken advantage of this.

[staplemonx]

If people need things this weekend at the MAR regional. my house is 10 minutes from the event and 3929's shop is 15 minutes away.

[Jared Russell]

So I guess this will be a 53 team competition, then?

[LH Machinist]

53 teams doesn't work well with scheduling unless each team plays 12 matches and I don't believe that will be the case...106 qualification matches!

[Kristian Calhoun]

Originally Posted by LH Machinist

53 teams doesn't work well with scheduling unless each team plays 12 matches and I don't believe that will be the case...106 qualification matches!

At the local kickoffs, MAR teams were promised 12 qualification matches per event and I don't think that number is going to change for the state championship. The goal for Thursday is to get two complete rounds finished, leaving 10 matches per team to be played between Friday and Saturday, which is definitely feasible.

[Joe Ross]

Similar to what I did in previous years, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (with 12 matches per team, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's highest adjusted opr at any event for their contribution to a match, based on Ed Law's data. I calculated the results for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

Since the standings are much more complicated this year, I did not try to calculate the standings. This is only the contribution of w-l-t to the qualification score (eg 2 points for a win, 1 point for a tie, no points for a loss).

Everyone should attend Karthik's presentation where he covers "Why 'OPR' is a flawed indicator in Rebound Rumble".

	OPR	Average	Median	Mode	Min	Max	StDev
1218	36.19	21.58	22	22	16	24	1.74
341	35.38	21.425	22	22	15	24	1.88
25	33.75	21.165	22	22	15	24	1.94
365	33.63	20.975	22	22	16	24	1.98
1676	29.47	19.12	20	20	8	24	2.57
222	24.18	16.585	16	16	10	24	2.85
1089	21.98	16.055	16	16	6	22	2.71
1279	21.96	15.825	16	18	10	24	2.99
1403	21.91	15.73	16	16	10	22	2.54
357	21.58	15.675	16	16	8	22	2.69
316	19.83	14.555	14	14	5	22	2.97
2180	19.62	14.795	14	14	7	22	3.17
224	18.83	14.35	14	14	8	20	2.67
423	18.21	13.365	14	12	6	20	3.04
2590	17.97	13.555	14	14	6	21	2.94
486	17.69	13.5	14	12	6	21	2.87
11	17.50	13.86	14	14	4	22	2.96
225	16.84	13.045	13	12	6	22	2.84
834	16.65	13.625	13	12	6	22	2.93
1712	16.46	12.565	12	14	5	19	2.70
2234	15.92	12.405	12	14	5	21	2.78
714	15.56	12.545	12	12	4	21	3.07
223	15.33	11.83	12	12	4	19	2.81
4342	15.15	12.155	12	14	4	22	3.22
56	14.91	11.645	12	12	4	20	3.18
272	14.77	11.855	12	12	4	22	2.92
1302	14.53	11.915	12	12	6	20	2.75
2016	14.46	11.235	11.5	10	3	18	2.83
1640	14.03	11.285	12	12	3	18	2.86
869	13.29	10.725	11	12	4	18	2.79
484	12.42	10.14	10	12	2	18	2.90
3314	12.28	10.145	10	10	2	18	2.77
2607	12.16	10.105	10	12	4	18	2.90
816	12.12	10.355	10	12	3	18	2.90
303	12.02	9.89	10	10	2	16	2.80
2729	10.51	9.385	10	10	0	16	2.70
1370	10.51	9.715	10	10	2	19	3.11
1391	10.51	9.315	9	8	2	19	2.93
708	10.38	9.16	9	8	2	16	2.93
3929	10.19	9.18	9	8	2	16	2.77
1923	10.06	9.07	9	10	2	18	2.80
3974	9.79	9.19	9	8	2	22	2.85
3637	9.62	8.865	8	8	2	16	2.93
75	9.36	8.39	8	10	2	16	2.84
1647	9.28	8.44	8	8	2	18	2.72
1168	8.20	7.85	8	8	0	15	2.76
433	7.94	7.915	8	8	2	16	2.65
3142	7.34	7.555	8	8	0	14	2.78
2559	6.74	7.395	8	8	0	14	2.93
1626	6.13	6.48	6	6	0	15	2.75
1811	5.32	6.555	6	8	0	16	2.82
1672	4.80	6.21	6	6	0	12	2.54
3515	3.58	5.75	6	6	0	14	2.54

[The Lucas]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

Similar to what I did in previous years, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (with 12 matches per team, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's highest adjusted opr at any event for their contribution to a match. I calculated the results for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

Since the standings are much more complicated this year, I did not try to calculate the standings. This is only the contribution of w-l-t to the qualification score (eg 2 points for a win, 1 point for a tie, no points for a loss).

Everyone should attend Karthik's presentation where he covers "Why 'OPR' is a flawed indicator in Rebound Rumble".

You know it is a big event when Joe simulates it for you before the event
It is interesting as always, thanks Joe.