2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

[dodar]

Originally Posted by bduddy

But the direct cause of those penalties was the driving of the red alliance - if they had gone at the bridge from the other side, for example, there would have been no penalties. Also, [G28] assigns Technical Fouls only for purposeful, consequential contact, and this was not purposeful. Not really sure where you're getting the 49 points from, because the extra 40 points would come from [G25], which you can definitely not be forced into committing...

If you read the italicized print from G25 you'd see that it reads: Techincal-Foul, if the act of balancing is interfered with, also a red Card with the bridge will be counted as balanced with the maximum number of robots possible for that match. They interfered with the act of balancing. This defines what happened in that match.

[Grim Tuesday]

Originally Posted by dodar

If you read the italicized print from G25 you'd see that it reads: Techincal-Foul, if the act of balancing is interfered with, also a red Card with the bridge will be counted as balanced with the maximum number of robots possible for that match. They interfered with the act of balancing. This defines what happened in that match.

Aah, but the G28 exception from G44 doesn't apply to G25.

[dodar]

Because it doesn't matter. If it happens it gets the penalty called no matter what.

[Grim Tuesday]

Originally Posted by dodar

Because it doesn't matter. If it happens it gets the penalty called no matter what.

[G44]
Generally, a rule violation by an Alliance that was directly caused by actions of the opposing Alliance will not be penalized. Rule [G28] is an exception to this rule.

We are talking about the same rule, right? G25 (the bridge rule) falls under the jurisdiction of G44.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

We are talking about the same rule, right? G25 (the bridge rule) falls under the jurisdiction of G44.

Q. Does rule G25 apply at all times? What happens if a robot is pinned against an opponents bridge (does rule G44 apply)?

A. Yes, Rule [G25] applies throughout the Match. The Referee will determine if Rule [G44] applies given the exact circumstances.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by dodar

Q. Does rule G25 apply at all times? What happens if a robot is pinned against an opponents bridge (does rule G44 apply)? FRC3005 2012-01-11

A. Yes, Rule [G25] applies throughout the Match. The Referee will determine if Rule [G44] applies given the exact circumstances.

And what does [G44] say? Generally, a team can't be forced into a penalty. If they were pushed up the bridge, I'd definitely call that forced into a penalty.

[Foster]

Originally Posted by DonRotolo

Well, awards went *really* well for me. Hard to believe it still, thanks everyone for the kind words.

Congrats!! It was a surprise to me, I thought you had already won one of those. Well done sir, well done.

[nahstobor]

Well since no one has said this yet, congratulations to teams 341, 25, and 1640 for winning the first MAR championship. There was only one playoff match where this alliance scored less than 100 points .

[Deetman]

Congrats to 341, 25, and 1640 for a truly impressive set of elimination matches and for winning the MAR Championship.

All the teams in the elimination rounds really stepped up their games and created some of the most exciting elimination rounds I've seen in person.

Congrats to both 75 and 433 for their well deserved MAR Chairman's Awards.

[jblay]

Congrats to 75 and 433 for winning the chairman's awards. From your videos I can tell that you both have accomplished quite a bit.

341, 25, 1640 was quite an alliance to watch. That triple balance with brakes was weird wild stuff. Your alliance would have the strength to challenge any alliance that will be on Einstein that's how deep MAR was.

Congrats to 1676 and 2016 for making it to championship. I actually watched the award ceremonies in the webcast to find out if these two teams would make it, because championship wouldn't be right without your two awesome robots, I will see you guys in St. Louis.

[Deetman]

Heard an interesting discussion come up down by the field during the finals. MAR champs vs. FiM champs at IRI. 341, 25, and 1640 vs 67, 469, 830. Don't know if it could happen but it would be quite a match.

[Grim Tuesday]

I'd give it to the 341, 25, 1640 alliance. They made quite the team and a congratulations is very due. 341 is arguably the best robot in FRC right now. Multiball auton? Check. 90+ accuracy in teleop? Check. Triple balance? Check. I could easily see this robot leading an alliance onto Einstein.

[rocpe]

Congratulations to Teams 341, 25 and 1640 for taking the MAR Championship. Special thanks to our alliance partners 365 and 222 for taking a chance on us. It was a pleasure being a "Moe"bot during our run to the semis. Your teams exhibited only grace and professionalism under pressure and in defeat. Your programs set a shining example that we hope our program can strive to emulate and develop into in the future.

[scottandme]

Did they calculate the 5 teams by points correctly? Some kind soul updated my spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...1YVpMQURnY 0E, which seems correct at first glance.

The 5 teams by points should be:

1218 (then skip 365 and 222)
1676
2180
2016 (then skip 2590)
486

I may be forgetting the order, but I thought they announced: 1218, 1676, 486, 357, 2016 - and then 56 & 2180 as 6 and 7.

Are there errors on the sheet or incorrect numbers there?

[dodar]

No, they skipped 357 because they had already qualifyied by winning DC.