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Unread 15-04-2012, 10:22
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

Awesome! Congrats 2180!! I was hoping you'd qualify!!
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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There was a scoring error in the Unofficial MAR ranks... We were contacted today and were told that we qualified. I suspect that they forgot to add in 60 points to our score for finishing as finalists. This would only effect us and not 1218 nor 2016... Everything has been worked out now...
Awesome to hear that they caught it. Congrats!

It looks like we'll have 26! teams at the championship event assuming the CA/EI/RAS teams attend. Seeing over a quarter of the teams in MAR at the championship event is going to be amazing. I'm excited to see the field assignments.

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Waiting to register/pay FIRST: 25,1640,75,3929,433,1218,1676,2180,2016,486
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Awesome! Congrats 2180!! I was hoping you'd qualify!!
Thanks Mr. Gregory!!! I was hoping that you guys were going to qualify with us, and I was disappointed when I saw your alliance get knocked out in the quarters...

Thanks for all of the help over the weekend, we would not be where we are without the help of your team!!!!

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Unread 15-04-2012, 11:43
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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115 and 108 in consecutive matches is just unbelievable and to be able to triple balance that smoothly w/o a birdge balancer is amazing alliance selection.
341 used their piston/"stinger" in every balancing attempt I watched from the blue alliance side of the field. I assume they used it in the ones I watched from the red alliance side of the field, as well.

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Nope, some team at CVR racked up 63 points in penalties in 1 match.
That was 63 of penalty points for the other alliance. It wasn't forcing an opponent into 63 points of penalties. Not a [G44] scenario.

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And 1218 couldn't have driven away from the red bridge?
341 had a position that effectively "pinned" them into the corner (without actually pinning them).

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If you read the italicized print from G25 you'd see that it reads: Techincal-Foul, if the act of balancing is interfered with, also a red Card with the bridge will be counted as balanced with the maximum number of robots possible for that match. They interfered with the act of balancing. This defines what happened in that match.
In my mind, the "act of balancing" only occurs once robots are on the bridge and attempting to balance. Perhaps there was a Q&A that further clarified this.
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

We did use our stinger in all 5 of our triple balances. But a huge part of being able to do it so quickly was due to 25 and 1640. 25's locking drivetrain effectively eliminates the problem of overshoot, and 1640's swerve ensures that they stay straight on the bridge even when they are in the middle of the "sandwich".

The question of how to officiate defense against the triple balance is definitely an interesting one, as it has had major roles in the outcomes of this event, MSC, and the Queen City Regional. I know that the MAR referee crew had talked to Aiden about this exact situation prior to occurring, so I have complete confidence that the way it was officiated at this event will be consistent with how it is officiated going forward. A team update or message from the GDC to confirm this would be appreciated, however.
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

From the crowdsourced data here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...RnY 0E#gid=20

1. 1218 (skip 365, skip 222)
2. 1676
3. 2180
4. 2016 (skip 2590)
5. 486 (skip 272)
6. 357 (skip 11)
7. 56


Can someone explain to me what this means? Why are the teams in parentheses skipped?
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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From the crowdsourced data here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...RnY 0E#gid=20

1. 1218 (skip 365, skip 222)
2. 1676
3. 2180
4. 2016 (skip 2590)
5. 486 (skip 272)
6. 357 (skip 11)
7. 56


Can someone explain to me what this means? Why are the teams in parentheses skipped?
Because they had already registered for Championship or qualified via winning the MAR Chairman's award.
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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Because they had already registered for Championship or qualified via winning the MAR Chairman's award.
How did 11 already qualify?
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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How did 11 already qualify?
They aren't. The FIRST website doesnt have them registered for Champs yet.
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

Exactly. As far as they know, they are not going. As I read the stats they have more points than 56. I am confused.
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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How did 11 already qualify?
I'm sorry, you are correct. Had them and 75 mixed up in my head for a moment (as the two Chairman's winners of MAR districts I didn't attend). I, too, am unsure of why they are being "skipped" in the crowdsourced data.
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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

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From what we learned, we think we'll be able to duplicate the field conditions at home and use a packet sniffer (again) to see what's really going on.

I'm not convinced it is a field problem, but more likely a problem in our bot that makes us more sensitive to something in the field. The fact that we never failed as red but always failed as Blue is suspicious. Especially when several teams also failed as blue.

Now this bug is getting personal, we're going to find it and fix it - but maybe not in time for St Louis.
Team 1370 would like to help you guys out some more in tracking down this problem. If you need anything or want to get another bot group together on your simulated field, please let us know.
Team 2607 would also like to help out in tracking this down. Just let us know....

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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

Anywho, on behalf of myself and 1712 I'd love to congratulate many on an awesome weekend and season.

341- What a truly special season for you guys. Thanks for the help you have provided us over the years, and it's awesome to see you take your game to the next level. A single point away from an undefeated weekend! Can't wait to see what you can accomplish at Championship. Thanks for the words of encouragement members of your team gave us at Hatboro and Philadelphia.

25 - We're glad you were able to rebound from our disappointing finish in Lenape. Absolutely brilliant performance by you over the course of the weekend, and you were definitely deserving of that #1 selection. Good luck in St. Louis!

1640 - Congratulations! You were a blast to sit near on Saturday, and we were thrilled that you guys ended up on your ideal alliance. We knew how worried some of you were by the final selection, and how exhilarating it is to be picked there.

357 - Terrific season by some of our best friends in FRC, and we're bummed you won't be in St. Louis. We were shocked by where you were ranked, and a little upset we contributed to it by losing as your alliance partners all the way back in match 3 (sorry we didn't have our bridge manipulator working for that match). But, despite that, you were still proven as a terrific scoring machine and very deserving of your early 1st round selection.

1089 - Congratulations on a well deserved GP award. Your team is awesome. Wish we could have played in a match together this weekend.

365 - Great season guys. Thankfully, our streak of annual quarterfinal match-ups is over. Hopefully we can align on the same side in eliminations sometime soon!

816 - If only we could have matched the success we found as qualification partners this year in the eliminations in the past two seasons (92 points in Lenape and a great win this weekend).

272 - Wow did you guys improve over the season! We were rooting for you to pull off what would have been an incredible upset in the semis, especially with quite an unorthodox triple balancing method. Wish both of our teams had been competing at this level while we were at Hatboro together (though we lost to not one, but two members of the #2 alliance at the MAR Championship by only a single ball). Great team and great friends. Hopefully we can re-unite in the eliminations again in the future.

433 and 75 - Congratulations to two incredibly deserving MARCA winners! 433 has been an inspiration to Dawgma for a while. We haven't had much interaction with 75 in the past, but your video demonstrated a truly quality program that should be emulated.



What an incredible experience to play at a championship event like this. 22 QP would have put us as the third seed at Hatboro back in week one, but was only good enough for 44th place this time around. A few poorly timed mistakes and failures really cost us at an event of this high stakes, but that's the nature of the game. We do feel that Dawgma proved itself worthy of the event with our performance on the field, even if we only made it in from the wait list. Can't wait to give it another run next season.

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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

Thanks to a well done inaugural FIRST MAR District Championship Event!

Thank you to all participating teams, event organizers, volunteers, and sponsors. Although we played in the Liacouras Center at Temple for a number of years when the event was the Philadelphia Regional, this event was different. It was the MAR Championship and it showed.

FRC Teams 75 and 433 - I am proud to have you both represent our district for the Chairman's Award. Two great teams and programs.

Team 3142 - Congratulations on your Engineering Inspiration Award! Keep inspiring!

Don Rotolo, FRC Team 1676 - it was an honor to announce your Woodie Flowers Award on Friday afternoon. You are so deserving. Congratulations! Also, a big thanks for the "Dream Team" of WFFA winners in our region get together for this award. I want a copy of that photo!

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Steven Donow - 223
Margaret Mary Rilling - 433
Elizabeth Skeele - 75


Wow! You guys have done some fantastic things already in your FIRST careers. I'm looking forward to even more in future years. Way to go!

FRC Teams 341, 25, 1640 - What a Championship Alliance! You guys were a force! While our alliance was hoping to be playing against you, it sure was fun (and less stressful) watching your matches against some great finalists: FRC Teams 1218, 1280, and 2016.

FRC Teams 222 and 1626 - Thanks for some terrific alliance partnership! We were only a double balance away from the finals! Tigertrons, I believe this was our first alliance pairing during an official FIRST event - nice to finally be on the same side!

To all teams qualifying for the Championship Event - congratulations. For those going, it will be a week or so of scrambling and planning. I am looking forward to seeing you all in St Louis. All the best as you represent our region.

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Re: 2012 Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship

Went 3 for 3 on Rookie All-Star awards, the kids really impressed the judges and other teams, we've made a strong reputation for ourselves as a team to watch for, got a visit from a PA congressman, and qualified for World Championships. Not too bad of a weekend but still disappointed in robot performance and missing elims, being a long bot stinks .

Thanks for the kind words and emails from various teams.

A huge round of applause to 341's alliance for the most exciting eliminations matches I've had the chance to see. I am really hoping to see you guys in the same division as us at Champs.

Congrats to 11 as well for a great season so far, hopefully it is not over for you yet. I was sad to not see you walk away with the Chairman's award.

One more thing: It was a little ridiculous to still see teams losing comms and stop moving at this event. It seemed to even happen in eliminations, aside from the issues 1676 already mentioned with their robot. Were the lost comms for other teams determined to be field related or robot related?

Where was this field from? Was it NYC/CT? Internal MAR field? Rutgers field?
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