Best Robots Not At Championship, 2012 Edition

[MagiChau]

Originally Posted by O'Sancheski

I see that 2337 is not on the Championship roster.

EDIT: Realized that Bill said that MAR and Michigan teams might not be registered yet.

2337 qualified for Championship. 469, 67, 548, 2054, 1918, 1023, 3098, 2337, 573, 3322, 2474, 245, 830, 4294, 33, 503, 1718, and 4130 are the teams qualifying for Championship through Michigan's 18 spots. 67 is auto-bid as Hall of Fame. 469 and 830 would've qualified by points even without winning the event. 33 and 503 won Chairman's. 1718 won Engineering Inspiration and 4130 won Rookie All Star.

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by MagiChau

67 is auto-bid as Hall of Fame.

So is 51, right?

If 51's HoF qualification removes them from Michigan's 18 slot allocations, then shouldn't 67's HoF qualification work the same way?

Then one more MSC team would need to be added, to complete the 18 slots. 217 is next in line.

Someone please correct me if I have misunderstood any of the above.

[David Smellie]

Originally Posted by Richard

So is 51, right?

If 51's HoF qualification removes them from Michigan's 18 slot allocations, then shouldn't 67's HoF qualification work the same way?

Then one more MSC team would need to be added, to complete the 18 slots. 217 is next in line.

Someone please correct me if I have misunderstood any of the above.

The way the systemfor Michigan works as I've been made to understand it is that only the 10 spots that are determined by points are redistributable. As such, 67's spot will open up on the waitlist, not for 217. Likewise, 27 qualified through the Chairman's Award and had already qualified for the championship event through winning the Engineering Inspiration at the Chesapeake Bay Regional but their spot is also not available for distribution and will go to the waitlist. Likewise, if one of the Chairman's teams, the RAS winner, or the Engineering Inspiration winner are unable to attend (though my understanding is they are all able to), the spot would open on the waitlist not for 217.

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by David Smellie

The way the systemfor Michigan works as I've been made to understand it is that only the 10 spots that are determined by points are redistributable. As such, 67's spot will open up on the waitlist, not for 217. Likewise, 27 qualified through the Chairman's Award and had already qualified for the championship event through winning the Engineering Inspiration at the Chesapeake Bay Regional but their spot is also not available for distribution and will go to the waitlist. Likewise, if one of the Chairman's teams, the RAS winner, or the Engineering Inspiration winner are unable to attend (though my understanding is they are all able to), the spot would open on the waitlist not for 217.

Well, according to the FiM 2012 Supplement Rules,

The remaining 10 qualifying spots will be filled by starting at the top of the re-computed rankings and moving down as far as is necessary to fill the ten spots, skipping over teams that are already eligible or scheduled to attend.

*Note: To the extent any of the three teams on the winning alliance are already registered or qualify for a spot another way, the next available team in ranked order will be substituted in their place.

[David Smellie]

Originally Posted by Hallry

Well, according to the FiM 2012 Supplement Rules,

It appears after looking at the results again that 67's spot was correctly redistributed as there are 12 teams that qualified based off of points. These teams are 548, 2054, 1918, 1023, 3098, 2337, 573, 3322, 2474, 245, and 4294, and 51(also through HoF so not counted).

Also to Chris, it likewise appears that team 51's performance does not remove a spot so you do not have to feel anything wrong with that. It appears the only spots that cannot be redistributed are the Chairman's, Engineering Inspirations, and Rookie All-Star spots *if* the team did not qualify based on points. Also, I'd like to thank 51 for picking us both at MSC and at the Detroit regional.

[~Cory~]

2481 gets my vote. Very impressive machine and a great team to go along with it.

[Joe G.]

228. They were absolutely devastating at WPI, and lost CT due to control issues.

[ks_mumupsi]

I am really gonna miss not seeing 177 at CMPs, I would agree with all the others mentioned as well.

[jblay]

2168 for me has the best robot not at championship. Obviously there are some really great robots and team's that are absolute powerhouses that are not attending like 177, 217, 71 and many of the others mentioned here, but for me the best robot not there is 2168's. So consistent and accurate. They lost one qualification match all year and might have 2 championships at this point in the season if FRC still used IFI.

It occurs to me that the district system really seems to help in repairing issues with great robots not being at championship. With all those spots given at the end of the competition, teams like 1676, 1218, and 2016 where lucky enough to not be named in this thread. When the day comes that everything is in districts I suspect this thread will have very few teams.

[Natchez]

Here is "The Rest Of The Best" based solely on seeding. Please be forewarned, I may have missed a few rocks when data mining.

#1 Seeds not attending Championships:
70, 131, 829 (also #2 seed), 935 (also #3 seed), 1089 (also #3 seed), 1676(mismined ... going to CMP), 1895, 2168 (twice #1 seed), 2481 (also #3 seed), 3138, 3161, 3293, 3636

#2 Seeds not attending Championships:
11 (a rock that might have been mismined), 95, 123, 224, 346, 538, 829, 888, 1056, 1230, 1243, 1468, 1503, 1661 (twice #2 seed), 1771, 2052, 2586, 2673, 3483, 3487, 3812, 3996, 4003

#3 Seeds not attending Championships:
56, 176, 177, 216, 294, 326, 368, 467, 473, 476, 599, 862, 935, 967, 1065, 1086, 1089, 1094, 1100, 1158, 1251, 1625, 2147, 2172, 2252, 2386, 2449, 2481, 2485, 2508, 2709, 2767, 2848, 3351, 3489, 3618, 3676, 3729, 3743, 4085

I'm still a fan of top seeded teams getting an invitation to Championships,
Lucien

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by Natchez

1676

We'll be there; qualified at MAR Championships last night

[Garrett.d.w]

Team 3698. I wouldn't call them the best robot, but they were one of the most consistent. Their flaw was not being able to score high, but other than that, they were a lot of fun to watch. I think that they could have won Spokane if Skunkworks hadn't played very good defense.

[MCahoon]

Originally Posted by Garrett.d.w

Team 3698. I wouldn't call them the best robot, but they were one of the most consistent. Their flaw was not being able to score high, but other than that, they were a lot of fun to watch. I think that they could have won Spokane if Skunkworks hadn't played very good defense.

3968 is going as Rookie All-Star for Seattle Cascade.

[avanboekel]

This is what's wrong with the current championship setup. Why aren't the best teams (71, 217, 1625, etc...) attending?!

[Alpha Beta]

Originally Posted by Natchez

#1 Seeds not attending Championships:
... 935 (also #3 seed),

Curious, 935 won Dallas West. Not attending champs must have been a choice. They have a devastating catapult and would have been a great addition to Champs.

A similar thing happened in 2010 when they won Oklahoma, but didn't attend champs. They did attend in 2011.