2012 Picklist Formation and Strategy

[MichaelBick]

Keep in mind, that those two robots (1114 and 2056 in this example) would actually have to score 11 balls in the same time as a triple, due to the fact that they would only be able to score a single. That being said, it might be possible. 1717 scored 7 balls in about the same time as a double. Assuming a adequate ball supply, two teams(maybe 469 and 1717) could possibly pull it off, but it would really depend on the field conditions at the time. From what I have seen though, the triple can be pulled off pretty quickly. 973 pulled off triples with 3 widebots really easily and quickly, and many of the better teams with stingers should be able to pull a triple off just as quickly.

[3098 callahan]

Originally Posted by MICHAELABICK

Keep in mind, that those two robots (1114 and 2056 in this example) would actually have to score 11 balls in the same time as a triple, due to the fact that they would only be able to score a single. That being said, it might be possible. 1717 scored 7 balls in about the same time as a double. Assuming a adequate ball supply, two teams(maybe 469 and 1717) could possibly pull it off, but it would really depend on the field conditions at the time. From what I have seen though, the triple can be pulled off pretty quickly. 973 pulled off triples with 3 widebots really easily and quickly, and many of the better teams with stingers should be able to pull a triple off just as quickly.

Do you think two long good shooters might pick each other two try and out score a triple or triple easier to go for then scoring?

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by 3098 callahan

Do you think two long good shooters might pick each other two try and out score a triple or triple easier to go for then scoring?

That would be extremely hard because if the two long robots score until the end they have to overcome a 31 pt deficit (11 balls have to be scored to overcome the triple balance and they need to make sure their third robot gets the solo balance). That is a lot of points to make up for two robots. Even if you have two robots go for you bridge and you keep one good robot scoring they still need to make up 21 pts to overcome the triple which is an even harder task.

Your best bet is to for for the triple yourself and if you are down, pray that the other alliance can't pull it off.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by BrendanB

That would be extremely hard because if the two long robots score until the end they have to overcome a 31 pt deficit (11 balls have to be scored to overcome the triple balance and they need to make sure their third robot gets the solo balance). That is a lot of points to make up for two robots. Even if you have two robots go for you bridge and you keep one good robot scoring they still need to make up 21 pts to overcome the triple which is an even harder task.

Your best bet is to for for the triple yourself and if you are down, pray that the other alliance can't pull it off.

This makes the incorrect assumption that two long robots cannot triple.

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by Cory

This makes the incorrect assumption that two long robots cannot triple.

Cory I never said that. In fact we have a long bot that can triple and in CT I saw three long bots triple twice on the practice field with much ease. I dislike the prejudice against long bots this season in that most teams assume based on our dimensions that we can't triple. Whenever a pit scout came to our pit and asked our dimensions we told our students to state our orientation and size and that we can triple balance. Sigh such unbelievers!

I was replying to the topic of if two long bots who are great scorers can forego a triple balance and outscore the other alliance in ball points alone.