Go to Post Canada has five regional events now. Canada. - Nick Lawrence [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
View Poll Results: Was this useful?
Yes, it was! It helped point out diamonds in the rough 109 70.32%
No, its numbers generally did not correspond to robot's actual on-field performance 46 29.68%
Voters: 155. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 32 votes, 4.88 average. Display Modes
  #286   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 26-04-2012, 20:09
MoHottaMoBetta's Avatar
MoHottaMoBetta MoHottaMoBetta is offline
Mentor
AKA: Bruce Kahn
FRC #0842 (Falcon Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 12
MoHottaMoBetta is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

I just tried to use OPRNet 25 on a couple of the divisions at the current Championships and it is not happy with something:

3 [C:\Downloads\OPRNet25] oprnet arc 2012 opr r
Temporary file created
URL opened
Downloaded 1024 bytes
Downloaded 1245 bytes
Downloaded 1245 bytes
File download complete
Parsing!
No matches found. This regional may not have run yet, or may have HTML output that the parser does not recognize.
Failure to parse XML. Code: -2147467259
Press any key to continue . . .

3 [C:\Downloads\OPRNet25] oprnet new 2012 opr r
Temporary file created
URL opened
Downloaded 1024 bytes
Downloaded 1245 bytes
Downloaded 1245 bytes
File download complete
Parsing!
No matches found. This regional may not have run yet, or may have HTML output that the parser does not recognize.
Failure to parse XML. Code: -2147467259
Press any key to continue . . .

Is anyone else seeing this? (I know there is data as I can see it on the FIRSt site.) Just thought I would ask before I try to dive into the source.
Reply With Quote
  #287   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 27-04-2012, 01:22
The Lucas's Avatar
The Lucas The Lucas is offline
CaMOElot, it is a silly place
AKA: My First Name is really "The" (or Brian)
FRC #0365 (The Miracle Workerz); FRC#1495 (AGR); FRC#4342 (Demon)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Dela-Where?
Posts: 1,564
The Lucas has a reputation beyond reputeThe Lucas has a reputation beyond reputeThe Lucas has a reputation beyond reputeThe Lucas has a reputation beyond reputeThe Lucas has a reputation beyond reputeThe Lucas has a reputation beyond reputeThe Lucas has a reputation beyond reputeThe Lucas has a reputation beyond reputeThe Lucas has a reputation beyond reputeThe Lucas has a reputation beyond reputeThe Lucas has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to The Lucas
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Quote:
Originally Posted by MoHottaMoBetta View Post
3 [C:\Downloads\OPRNet25] oprnet new 2012 opr r
Temporary file created
URL opened
Downloaded 1024 bytes
Downloaded 1245 bytes
Downloaded 1245 bytes
File download complete
Parsing!
No matches found. This regional may not have run yet, or may have HTML output that the parser does not recognize.
Failure to parse XML. Code: -2147467259
Press any key to continue . . .

Is anyone else seeing this? (I know there is data as I can see it on the FIRSt site.) Just thought I would ask before I try to dive into the source.
I had that issue. Just use the full division name (e.g. newton). OPRnet just uses whatever string you type into that parameter as part of the URL. The New FIRST website no longer redirect the division abrieviations (e.g. new) to the correct URL.

On a side note, the OPRs of the Divisions Thursday night are pretty much worthless. With only 3-4 matches completed for 100 teams, the matrix is barely solveable. Expect lots of redculously high and low numbers
__________________
Electrical & Programming Mentor ---Team #365 "The Miracle Workerz"
Programming Mentor ---Team #4342 "Demon Robotics"
Founding Mentor --- Team #1495 Avon Grove High School
2007 CMP Chairman's Award - Thanks to all MOE members (and others) past and present who made it a reality.
Robot Inspector
"I don't think I'm ever more ''aware'' than I am right after I burn my thumb with a soldering iron"
Reply With Quote
  #288   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 27-04-2012, 01:41
Austin2046's Avatar
Austin2046 Austin2046 is offline
Design, Strategy & Scouting Mentor
FRC #2046 (Bear Metal)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Maple Valley, WA
Posts: 175
Austin2046 has a spectacular aura aboutAustin2046 has a spectacular aura about
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lucas View Post
I had that issue. Just use the full division name (e.g. newton). OPRnet just uses whatever string you type into that parameter as part of the URL. The New FIRST website no longer redirect the division abrieviations (e.g. new) to the correct URL.

On a side note, the OPRs of the Divisions Thursday night are pretty much worthless. With only 3-4 matches completed for 100 teams, the matrix is barely solveable. Expect lots of redculously high and low numbers
lol, I ran the numbers earlier just to see how they were looking for Archimedes, and yeah... they seem, how should we say... less than accurate.
Reply With Quote
  #289   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 27-04-2012, 08:31
Bongle's Avatar
Bongle Bongle is offline
Registered User
FRC #2702 (REBotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Waterloo
Posts: 1,069
Bongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Bongle
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Yeah, the numbers probably won't be usable until teams' 6-7th matches. I wish I knew more stats and could give error bars on team's OPRs, that'd be handy. It's just a simple linear regression, I'd think the math on how to get confidence intervals would be straightforward, but I haven't found it.
Reply With Quote
  #290   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-04-2012, 21:39
MoHottaMoBetta's Avatar
MoHottaMoBetta MoHottaMoBetta is offline
Mentor
AKA: Bruce Kahn
FRC #0842 (Falcon Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 12
MoHottaMoBetta is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

I found it took until the 7-8th matches to settle down enough to be usable.

For fun I also had it predict the Saturday AM matches for all 4 divisions. It correctly predicted 72.72% of the Archimedes matches and a few were pretty dang close to the predicted score. I will check how well it did on the other 3 divisions if anyone is interested.
Reply With Quote
  #291   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-05-2012, 15:39
Ether's Avatar
Ether Ether is offline
systems engineer (retired)
no team
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Rookie Year: 1969
Location: US
Posts: 8,141
Ether has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bongle View Post
It's just a simple linear regression, I'd think the math on how to get confidence intervals would be straightforward, but I haven't found it.
It might be more complicated than you think. Consider the following problem:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1165314


Reply With Quote
  #292   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-03-2013, 12:32
Navid Shafa Navid Shafa is offline
FIRST Hiatus/Retired?
no team
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,525
Navid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Sorry for thread bumping if this is a dead channel, but I'm curious as to where I could find the OPRNet.exe for this season.
__________________
2015 & 2016 Fantasy FIRST Champions [Rotten Fruit Alliance]
Elgin Clock Award Winners: '13, '15, '16

Team 1983 | Alumnus, Former Mentor| Team_ 360 | Former Coach | Team 5803 | Former Mentor

"Once a Skunk, Always a Skunk"

Founding Member
Reply With Quote
  #293   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-03-2013, 12:36
Joe Ross's Avatar Unsung FIRST Hero
Joe Ross Joe Ross is offline
Registered User
FRC #0330 (Beachbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Rookie Year: 1997
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,604
Joe Ross has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Ross has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Ross has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Ross has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Ross has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Ross has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Ross has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Ross has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Ross has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Ross has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Ross has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navid Shafa View Post
Sorry for thread bumping if this is a dead channel, but I'm curious as to where I could find the OPRNet.exe for this season.
the previous version still works, as long as you apply the new event codes.
Reply With Quote
  #294   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-03-2013, 13:08
fr05ty27355's Avatar
fr05ty27355 fr05ty27355 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Paul
FRC #2169 (KING TeC)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 33
fr05ty27355 is on a distinguished road
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Ross View Post
the previous version still works, as long as you apply the new event codes.
Where can I find the new event codes?
__________________
Innovation: The best way to predict the future is to create it - Peter Drucker

FTC: 3855 Tempered Steel
2010 - Minnesota Snow Drift - FTC Winning Alliance
2010 - World Championship - FTC Finalist Alliance

FRC: 2169 KING TeC
2013 - MSHSL State Championship - Finalist Alliance
2013 - Galileo Division - Finalist Alliance
2013 - Colorado - Winning Alliance
2013 - Northern Lights - Winning Alliance
2012 - MSHSL State Championship - Winning Alliance
2012 - Wisconsin - Finalist Alliance
2012 - Lake Superior - Regional Chairman's Award
2012 - Lake Superior - Winning Alliance
2011 - 10,000 Lakes - Finalist Alliance
2011 - Lake Superior - Regional Chairman's Award
2011 - Lake Superior - Finalist Alliance
2010 - 10,000 Lakes - Regional Chairman's Award
Reply With Quote
  #295   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-03-2013, 13:09
Ether's Avatar
Ether Ether is offline
systems engineer (retired)
no team
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Rookie Year: 1969
Location: US
Posts: 8,141
Ether has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Quote:
Originally Posted by fr05ty27355 View Post
Where can I find the new event codes?

http://frclinks.frclinks.com/



Reply With Quote
  #296   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-03-2013, 13:16
Bongle's Avatar
Bongle Bongle is offline
Registered User
FRC #2702 (REBotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Waterloo
Posts: 1,069
Bongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond reputeBongle has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to Bongle
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Ross View Post
the previous version still works, as long as you apply the new event codes.
Sweet!

Because I don't have the time anymore to update it

Couldn't even make it to montreal with 2702

Last edited by Bongle : 14-03-2013 at 13:18.
Reply With Quote
  #297   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-03-2013, 13:23
Navid Shafa Navid Shafa is offline
FIRST Hiatus/Retired?
no team
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,525
Navid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Thank you, I'll give it a shot!
__________________
2015 & 2016 Fantasy FIRST Champions [Rotten Fruit Alliance]
Elgin Clock Award Winners: '13, '15, '16

Team 1983 | Alumnus, Former Mentor| Team_ 360 | Former Coach | Team 5803 | Former Mentor

"Once a Skunk, Always a Skunk"

Founding Member
Reply With Quote
  #298   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-03-2013, 13:40
bardd's Avatar
bardd bardd is offline
That loud guy
AKA: Bar Danino
FRC #2212 (The Spikes)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Israel, Lod
Posts: 347
bardd has a brilliant futurebardd has a brilliant futurebardd has a brilliant futurebardd has a brilliant futurebardd has a brilliant futurebardd has a brilliant futurebardd has a brilliant futurebardd has a brilliant futurebardd has a brilliant futurebardd has a brilliant futurebardd has a brilliant future
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Doesn't work for me... It doesn't allow me to use the new codes. For example, whenever I type "ista" it reprints the list of old codes.
__________________
Team FRC#2212 The Spikes, 2011-...
Builld leader 2013
Drive coach 2012-2013
Mentor 2015-...
Reply With Quote
  #299   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-03-2013, 13:53
Navid Shafa Navid Shafa is offline
FIRST Hiatus/Retired?
no team
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,525
Navid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond reputeNavid Shafa has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

I got it to output the raw OPR for Oregon correctly. It's just weird that it has an option to select bridge points :S

I would love to be able to sort by hybrid, climb and do everything from last year. Maybe I'll need to take a look at the source code and see how hard it would be to bring it up to speed with 2013.

I don't know if I'm up to the task, but I'd certainly like the data
__________________
2015 & 2016 Fantasy FIRST Champions [Rotten Fruit Alliance]
Elgin Clock Award Winners: '13, '15, '16

Team 1983 | Alumnus, Former Mentor| Team_ 360 | Former Coach | Team 5803 | Former Mentor

"Once a Skunk, Always a Skunk"

Founding Member
Reply With Quote
  #300   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 14-03-2013, 13:56
dodar's Avatar
dodar dodar is offline
Registered User
FRC #1592 (Bionic Tigers)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 2,929
dodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond reputedodar has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Easy to use Offensive Power Rankings (OPR) program for mid-regional scouting

Does it allow for week 2 events? I tried everything for Orlando and then tried San Diego to just make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong and it failed every time.
__________________
1592(Student and Mentor) 2007-Present

Blue Banners: 2008 Colorado, 2012 Orlando, 2012 South Florida, 2014 Orlando, 2015 Buckeye

Mechanical Engineering - University of Central Florida(Class of 2016)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Offensive Power Ranking Calculations Greg Marra General Forum 4 18-03-2009 22:03
Offensive Power Rankings for 2008 Bongle General Forum 166 18-05-2008 15:05
Offensive+Defensive Power Rankings BornaE General Forum 4 05-04-2008 01:33
2006 Offensive Power Ratings sw293 General Forum 16 10-05-2006 17:04
(CURIE) Let's make this Easy for all of us. [scouting] 157#1Driver Championship Event 13 22-04-2002 08:56


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 20:37.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi