Einstein Field issues Handled correctly?

[Robotmmm]

I feel bad for 180, 25, and 16. Sure they were declared the winners, but it will forever be a tainted win. We will never know who the real winners should have been.

[nlknauss]

Originally Posted by Robotmmm

I feel bad for 180, 25, and 16. Sure they were declared the winners, but it will forever be a tainted win. We will never know who the real winners should have been.

I don't know that I would call it a tainted win because we don't have any real information (other than our observations) to support that it is a field problem. Yes, this is the first time we've seen this kind of failure on Einstein but I don't think anything should be taken away from the winning alliance. We'll probably learn more soon...hopefully.

Did they handle it right? I'd say that they handled it well after the first 2 failures by replaying the matches. After that, I'm sure they did the best they could. No one wants to see robot bricks on any field at any level.

[efoote868]

180, 25, and 16 played and won on the red alliance. The field issues seemed to be just with the red alliance, so I would not consider it a "tainted" win.

I cheered when they announced replaying both matches. That was the correct decision, and as far as I know, the only decision they could have made.

[Sean Raia]

Originally Posted by efoote868

180, 25, and 16 played and won on the red alliance. The field issues seemed to be just with the red alliance, so I would not consider it a "tainted" win.

I cheered when they announced replaying both matches. That was the correct decision, and as far as I know, the only decision they could have made.

Simply not true. Blue alliance had com issues as well. Although strangely they surfaced later in the tournament.

[efoote868]

If only we could go back to IFI's radio system... wifi problems solved.

[Doc Wu]

Originally Posted by efoote868

If only we could go back to IFI's radio system... wifi problems solved.

Yeah. Try and push a video signal over that!

[plnyyanks]

Originally Posted by Sean Raia

Because the way I see it, it was more likely caused by the large number of 3g phone signals creating massive wireless noise.

That and the weather...

Originally Posted by plnyyanks

Consider the weather: electrical storms and hail. That can't be good for the field networks.

[Sean Raia]

Originally Posted by plnyyanks

That and the weather...

This makes a lot of sense. To me, a field doesnt simply "go bad" for random driver stations at random times. It must have been an external cause

[Sean Raia]

[nlknauss]

Originally Posted by plnyyanks

That and the weather...

If this possible, maybe we'll see weather delays in FRC?! Like in sports, they could show highlights or replays of past games for the audience as they wait.

[JM987]

Originally Posted by efoote868

180, 25, and 16 played and won on the red alliance. The field issues seemed to be just with the red alliance, so I would not consider it a "tainted" win.

I cheered when they announced replaying both matches. That was the correct decision, and as far as I know, the only decision they could have made.

That's not true. We were on the blue alliance in the finals and were having major problems.

[Anupam Goli]

Originally Posted by JM987

That's not true. We were on the blue alliance in the finals and were having major problems.

Ooh, we have someone from one of the Einstein teams. What were the reactions of the teams with issues, and how did the FTA look at it?

[Botwoon]

Originally Posted by Wing

Ooh, we have someone from one of the Einstein teams. What were the reactions of the teams with issues, and how did the FTA look at it?

Teams that lost because of it were livid. Teams that benefited from it shared the opinions of everyone here. I thought that the Curie eliminations were far more exciting than any single match played on Einstein. The finals on Curie were intense.

[JM987]

Originally Posted by Wing

Ooh, we have someone from one of the Einstein teams. What were the reactions of the teams with issues, and how did the FTA look at it?

I didn't come on to rant just recognize something went wrong. If there were Com issues involved they should've took a better approach instead of in a sense saying oh, well better luck next year. I mean, what was the point replaying SF1-1 and SF2-1 then?

As far as the FTA goes, it seems like they didn't do anything to change the outcome or else it would've never happened. Or at least waited until the issue was resolved.

[splatter]

our team had connections problems all day luckily we were able to work them out but the FTA did every things in his power to help us he did not leave us flat once. and that was in practice matches and early qualifiers. so it was very disappointing i really felt like no one truly won at all in a general sense. but nice job to all of the teams in the finals nice job all ! to find a true winner it should all be re done but it wont happen. good job winners!

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I didn't come on to rant just recognize something went wrong. If there were Com issues involved they should've took a better approach instead of in a sense saying oh, well better luck next year. I mean, what was the point replaying SF1-1 and SF2-1 then?

As far as the FTA goes, it seems like they didn't do anything to change the outcome or else it would've never happened. Or at least waited until the issue was resolved.

from jm987