Einstein 2012

[bduddy]

Originally Posted by efoote868

What about when the paper airplanes made it clear across the field?

Oh, yeah, that was great. The best one was the airplane that cleared the curtain behind the podium by a wide margin!

Were paper airplanes thrown at Atlanta, or is this a new tradition?

[aditya29]

Originally Posted by bduddy

Oh, yeah, that was great. The best one was the airplane that cleared the curtain behind the podium by a wide margin!

Were paper airplanes thrown at Atlanta, or is this a new tradition?

Not sure about Atlanta, but it definitely happened last year. Quite a few cheers for the couple that made it down to the field then as well

[nikeairmancurry]

Lets start a petition to replay the elims at IRI. Just to see how they would have played out. No rule changes, let this happen at the end of day 1 so that it gives everyone the chance to see these teams really play.

[Chexposito]

Not at Atlanta, it was started last year.

[Anupam Goli]

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry

Lets start a petition to replay the elims at IRI. Just to see how they would have played out. No rule changes, let this happen at the end of day 1 so that it gives everyone the chance to see these teams really play.

I believe the 4 teams on Einstein that did not apply to IRI were invited already... Let's see if they accept!

[nikeairmancurry]

Originally Posted by Wing

I believe the 4 teams on Einstein that did not apply to IRI were invited already... Let's see if they accept!

But to see them actually play the Arch vs Curie and Newton vs Galileo, would make it all the better..

[Deetman]

Paper airplanes were definitely present in Atlanta in 2004 and 2005.

[Anupam Goli]

I think they were invited just so they could have that Einstein rematch... but they'll stick around to play in quals and maybe elims.

[Racer26]

I suspect the biggest question mark of the bunch is 4334.

Calgary's a fairly long way from Indy.

[bduddy]

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry

But to see them actually play the Arch vs Curie and Newton vs Galileo, would make it all the better..

While I understand the idea, I'm not so sure about some of the things it might lead to. If Galileo loses they'll be forever known, rightly or wrongly, as "the alliance that only won at Championships because of field problems", and they deserve better than that.

[Lil' Lavery]

The staff at the Georgia Dome was not as tolerant as the staff in St. Louis seem to be about paper airplanes. I know there were attempts at them multiple years, but Dome security quickly put an end to them.

[lemiant]

We'd do it! We were planning on applying and making the treck anyway. Is the invite a real thing?

[frdrake]

233 software mentor here. I was down on the field for part of it and in the stands for part. Whether we won or lost we didn't want to play like this. We have absolutely no problem with losing cause you're beat by a better robot, but win or lose these matches just were not how we wanted to play the game. There were several problems with our opponents and while they were not so obvious, in the finals matches there were flickers of connectivity issues with some of our bots have longer bouts of "sudden" connection issues (233 in F1 and 987 in F2). I watched our robots more but I also heard there were issues with 180 in F2.

To the comment about sucking the excitement out of the air, it really did. The general feeling was that the entire crowd was pumped and everyone felt a real tingle of excitement after each divisional elimination match. After the Einstein matches though there wasn't rampant cheering, there were no exciting rallies or awesome blocks. It just felt hollow, because everyone knew that no matter who won or lost, it probably wasn't going to be based on robot design or driver skill or strategy.

As a mentor I feel bad for how it ended, but I feel even worse for how it ended for our students. Mentors can come back next year and go again but we had a good number of students that are seniors that this was their last go at it, this is the last feeling they're going to get from FIRST unless they decide to come back in the future and be mentors themselves.

As far as the issues themselves, I'm not sure what caused it, but I will say that Pink went through divisional matches and never had any period of connectivity issues, this was the first it appeared. I don't know they could have done anything differently, I think they knew it was a raw deal all the way around and all the EI teams I think recognize it. I just hope they can fix the causes of it and we can move on.

So congrats again to 16, 25 and 180, I know I talked to most of you there. All of the EI alliances were fierce competitors and I think we all want to be remembered for our performances in our division finals instead of what came out of the EI matches.

[Mark Holschuh]

I would like to congratulate teams 16, 25 and 180. Your alliance played great!

I would also like to thank our alliance partners 118 and 548. Both teams are well organized, highly disciplined, and extremely talented. It was a lot of fun developing strategies and playing with you. Who knows how far our alliance would have gotten if not for the communications issues on the Einstein field. A special shout out to their scouting teams, as the information you provided was absolutely the best I have ever seen.

I don’t know if we will ever know what was really causing teams to lose communications at the Championships. I know our team struggled with them at the Wisconsin Regional, and found the root cause to be a number of electrical issues with the robot.

Lastly we would also like to thank all of the dedicated volunteers at the Championship. You are the reason why FIRST is so great!

[qzrrbz]

While Einstein dead robot issues were obvious to the whole crowd, how many of the divisional elims had similar problems?

Pretty sure 1717/469/2471 would have rather have played all their matches with all guns firing! Were there others?