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FIRST's statement on Einstein

Just saw this got posted on Tumblr:

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Dear FRC Teams:

Thank you for your incredible enthusiasm and Gracious Professionalism throughout the year and at the Championship.

We apologize for the technical problems that affected the final matches at our Championship. We will examine all of the facts, report our findings and ultimately solve any and all identified issues.

Sincerely,

Jon Dudas

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Can anyone confirm? EDIT: It's confirmed. 2nd post.
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Re: FIRST's statement on Einstein

Confirmed
This went out to FRC team main contacts via email this evening.
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Re: FIRST's statement on Einstein

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Re: FIRST's statement on Einstein

Team 4061 also received the e-mail from FIRST
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Re: FIRST's statement on Einstein

Oppos didn't see the other thread X_x
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Re: FIRST's statement on Einstein

"We will examine all of the facts, report our findings and ultimately solve any and all identified issues." so what are they going to do make all the teams come back just to play Einstein and see who should of really won?
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Re: FIRST's statement on Einstein

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"We will examine all of the facts, report our findings and ultimately solve any and all identified issues." so what are they going to do make all the teams come back just to play Einstein and see who should of really won?
This was my concern. The season is over, there's not much they can really do at this point except wish us luck for next year.
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My question to Jon Dudas would be, "Why did it have to come to this?"

I think that is about all I can say about the situation.

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Re: FIRST's statement on Einstein

I think FIRST will give an auto qualification to all teams that were on Einstein for next year's championship.
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Re: FIRST's statement on Einstein

I'd like to see FIRST launch a legitimate investigation into the communications issues this year, on both sides. Robot and field.

Make a case study out of it, and put it to rest, then fix the issue, wherever it lies. Then we can all collectively learn.

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Re: FIRST's statement on Einstein

All I am going to say is that people need to be quiet about our so called "tainted win" and look at IRI and the 2013 season.

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Re: FIRST's statement on Einstein

I wouldn't call it a "tainted" win. Everyone on that field had the same issue to one degree or another.

I look at it as, "Who has the best alliance", with an unannounced--and unplanned-for--factor contributing to that called, "Who maintains connection the best".

I also see it as, thanks to all the Einstein teams for finally calling FIRST's full, undivided attention to an issue that has been plaguing them for a while.

And I think the SPAM Raider Squad is one of the best sets of teams to come together and play the game. Comm issues or no comm issues.
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With the way things are going, I have a bad feeling about any potential Einstein replay matches on IRI. There is definitely going to be a bad vibe going about if 180, 16, and 25 don't win that time, and it would just be awkward. I feel like FIRST is handling it correct for now, and needs to investigate this deeply, and as for the champions, I like the idea of keeping the current Champions, but having all other Einstein teams be given a bid to the 2013 Championship.
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I know it's impossible to predict who will be going championships next season, but if giving teams an auto bid next season is meant to compensate, I honestly don't believe that is enough, especially for teams such as 118, 548, 16, 25, 180, 1114, 2056, 233, 987, who either already qualify or have about as much chance of missing championship as 217 did this year.
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Re: FIRST's statement on Einstein

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My question to Jon Dudas would be, "Why did it have to come to this?"

I think that is about all I can say about the situation.

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I couldn't have said it any better. The most disappointing thing about these random field issues is that FIRST has been seeing them and denying them all season long.

At one regional, they made a point to blame the multiple teams with random disconnects in the eliminations when the crowd began to react, even though the evidence was by no means conclusive.

It's absolutely horrible that the issues happened on Einstein field, in a way that was both obvious and large scale. I am glad FIRST is finally recognizing there is a problem, but they had weeks to years of observations that they were denying before this. It's a shame. At least the issues are finally getting the attention they need.
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