Mac DriverStation?

[androb4]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

Why would you want to? With all the connectivity issues already out there, you are adding one more complication. One place that the already heavily loaded FTA people cannot help you trouble shoot. When they say sorry the problem is in your unsupported operation system what are you going to do?

Funny to hear an Apple person talk about open source.

Why would it add another complication??
The MB will BOOT Windows OS normally. Just like on the classmate

[krieck]

I have to say that I appreciate how cross-platform most of the WPI tools are. We can develop and deploy code from any student's laptop. The smart dashboard runs on anything. Once the robot is enabled, the console is visible no matter what OS is hosting Netbeans. Vanilla FTP gets us into the cRIO. We can visit the Axis camera from any browser.

This pattern breaks when we need to enable and drive the robot. Since the driver station is just talking UDP, you'd think we could drive from any computer.

[Camren]

Originally Posted by Bennett

I was wondering if there is a 2012 driver station for mac, i thought i saw some teams using one at competition and was curious, thanks!

our team has a mac book with straight up windows 7 no boot camp no mac os it runs the driverstation nicely

[vinnie]

Originally Posted by linuxboy

I'm fairly sure the LabView source for the Driver Station isn't public, nor is the DS-FMS protocol or the DS-cRIO protocol. The dashboard source however, is public. If you want to work with someone on making a linux (and mac for that matter) version of the Driver Station I'd be happy to help (remember, it can't be used at competition).
- Oliver

Oh I know that it can't be used at the competition haha. I just got really tired of either finding the classmate or rebooting into Windows to drive the robot when I did all of my development in Linux. I'll be sure to send you a message when I start working on it in the summer (although I might be swamped with trying to program the swerve drive that we are designing).

[Alexa Stott]

Originally Posted by jtus

Alexa is right we use a Macbook Air running bootcamp. We do all of our programing with it and use it for the driver station. One of the main reasons I chose the MBair is it runs all day ona single charge. Wirh the cassmate I could just make it thru a single round with the wait time to get on the field.

The classmate was also older and slower and just...blech.

I get really excited when I get to use that Air. I'm just a big Apple fan.

[linuxboy]

Originally Posted by vinnie

Oh I know that it can't be used at the competition haha. I just got really tired of either finding the classmate or rebooting into Windows to drive the robot when I did all of my development in Linux. I'll be sure to send you a message when I start working on it in the summer (although I might be swamped with trying to program the swerve drive that we are designing).

Sounds good, I'll try to remember to message you part way through the summer if I don't hear anything. Some reverse engineering of the FMS to DS protocol has been done (I think) and possibly some DS to Robot. I'll have to do some googling to find it again though.

[ProgrammerMatt]

We used a macbook pro ONLY becuase of the great battery life (im a pc person)

[Spectare]

Originally Posted by linuxboy

I'm fairly sure the LabView source for the Driver Station isn't public, nor is the DS-FMS protocol or the DS-cRIO protocol. The dashboard source however, is public. If you want to work with someone on making a linux (and mac for that matter) version of the Driver Station I'd be happy to help (remember, it can't be used at competition).
- Oliver

Yep, my mistake, the dashboard is, but the driverstation isn't.

[Spectare]

And the DS/FMS-CRIO protocol is "sort of" open source, because wpilib is open source, and one can find how the protocol works in there.

[DominickC]

We programmed on a ThinkPad with some pretty good hardware throughout the entire season. The Classmate was just too slow to handle much of anything.

Upon arriving at the WPI Regional, the ThinkPad's HDD bit the dust. We set up my personal Mac to run the DS and LabVIEW via Parallels Win7. Once we reconfigured the networks and USB connections,all was well.

[rainbowdash]

Members in our team were able to get DS on to our Macs pretty easily through bootcamp and windows 7. It's way more expensive, but reliable that way.
It ran faster on windows 7 premium than it did on ultimate because there was more space to run the program in.
However, we relied on an Asus that was given to our team since it was devoted specifically to being the DS computer and had less chances of crashing.

[ProgrammerMatt]

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256

I'm pro-Mac, but I'm just wondering: Why? I know the DS is important, but you definitely don't need a Mac to run it (The classmate works, and PCs are cheaper.)

we use a mac mainly for battery life 6-7 hours is nice

[theawesome1730]

This is sort of an old thread now, but as Macs gain market share (11-12%) compared to windows, more and more teams are going to want to start using Macs to program and drive their robots natively through OS X. It would be beneficial in my opinion for NI to create a port of LabView that runs natively on Macs. Like others have said, they have great battery, they are small and light and for a MacBook Air, an i7 and 8gbs of RAM would do a heck of a job doing video processing to take load off of the cRio.