Dual CIMs and #25 Chain

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It seems that people are just skipping over the two most important posts in this thread.

Originally Posted by Justin Stiltner

I did a bit of math, and assuming the following
2 CIM motors in stall, 16 tooth sprocket, and 12.75:1 gear ratio on your tough boxes, you are applying 848 pounds of force to the chain and the sprocket teeth. Diamond brand roller chain in #25 size is rated to have a tensile strength of 875lbs, so it really is not much of a surprise that the chains failed at the master link, which is typically weaker than the chain it holds together. If you change to a 32 tooth sprocket the chain would only experience 427 pounds of force, which is about a 2x factor of safety.

So, based on the math, you WILL have fatigue failure sooner or later. (Assuming the math is correct, I don't feel like actually redoing the calculations)

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz

I have seen many teams use your method to tension chain from the transmission. Often the washers allow the mounting for the transmission to shift, bend and twist under the load of reversing the drive. Without pictures this is pure conjecture but when the trans moves, the chance for the chain to climb up on the sprocket increases. Something has to give. I would bet that a close inspection of your sprockets with a bright light will show some unusual telltale marks. That is where the chain break occurred when it was caught on a high spot or tooth during the stress.

The other major problem that has been pointed out is your transmission wobbles during heavy load. This will significantly increase the amount of stress that the chain is experiencing and possibly cause a tensile failure or at the very least a fatigue failure.


My advice,
1) Make sure everything in your drivetrain is rock solid. Any amount of wobble will just exaggerate the stresses on the system and cause failure.
2) Direct drive the center wheel if at all possible, or have all the chain going off of the transmission output shaft directly.