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Re: FIRST is realy looking into the Einstein problems
This is a step in the right direction. And a BIG one. I like the move--bring in the known "robots with problems on the field" and try for two days to either replicate the problem or find the issue, with team members present. Then the call for all the other data...
I think FIRST got the message the field sent. Now, let's see if FIRST will send official observers to offseason events that use a FIRST field...or at least take reports of potential field issues. |
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However, that dosen't stop the D-link bridge from scanning all of the 2.4ghz networks it finds. Another however, this thread is not about speculating on what happened. I am glad that they acknowledge that there is a radio/communication problem. |
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They were referring to the field electronics hardware, not the FMS software (which is indeed used at all events).
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Well, if look at it from the "this has been happening for years" perspective, that of a pessimist, then yes, it is the wrong choice of words. But a more optimistic person could say "at least they are doing something now instead of trying to fix it during the 2013 season", in which case it would seem like a perfectly appropriate word choice. Some one who falls somewhere in between the two groups might say that it is "ironic" for an optimist to say that they are being proactive even though this has been going on for years.
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I can see what you mean by this, but why I selected this word, I guess, is because FIRST could have always just either blamed the individual robots or claimed it to be a fluke (or some other variation that allows them to spend no money searching for a solution) until it inevitably happened again next year.
But instead they are discrediting no claims that there was a field issue and are taking all possible steps to right the wrongs for next year. Bravo! So often do I see the wrong thing done because it is easier/more convenient/cheaper. There was a problem and they plan to fix it. |
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I heartily applaud FIRST for finally reacting proactively to this ongoing problem.
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I am excited that they are doing this. This might help find out why we blacked out during a match during Newton Qualifications as well as 1717.
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First I have to ask to please not use this thread to hash out the same issues we have all covered else where.
We were contacted almost imediatly after the Championship to offer their support and invited us to provide any and all experiences/data. I am sure this was the same for all of the final 12. I truely feel for all of the staff and volunteers that had to deal with the aftermath or the finals and all of the events prior. You could hear it in the voice of the gentlmen I spoke to. FIRST has been more than professional and accommodating to all involved in the finals. If it could be extended to all that had issues, they would. Our community will benifit from the final 12 test. FIRST does realize that we as a community has made this big part of our lives, so much so it powers us through the off season and creates conditions for great success in all we do. So My team and I are pleased with the offerings that FIRST has put on the table. Will it please all that read the results? I hope so. But for the nay sayers, this is life! be iterative! See you next year, when we start this whole process over! Just for the fun of it! Lucas |
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Thank you to FIRST for making this a priority and taking a swift course of action. Thank you also to the 12 awesome FRC teams for accommodating and helping with this project.
Sincerely, Andy Baker |
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step in the right direction
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Hmmmmm. I hope all teams can afford to send an adult representative in. Other than that, a step in the right direction, for sure.
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Re: FIRST is realy looking into the Einstein problems
Just to reiterate for those jumping to the end of the thread...
The field elements only (border and mechanical parts) were stored in Tenn. The electronics had been used at four prior events and were chosen for their proven track record at those prior events. FIRST is taking this very seriously, from Jon and Dean all the way down. Everyone is committed to finding out exactly what happened. FIRST started this process right after Champs and has been working hard to collect data from all involved. Thank you to all teams that are participating. |
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