2012 IRI Predictions

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by JosephC

Ouch, apparently 68's World Rank sucks. I'm guessing it factors in data from before Worlds?

Yes, Ed Law's Database includes all events attended per team.

[Debbie]

Originally Posted by J_Miles

. Where 25 and 1023 are fairly comparable, 25 is long with no stabilization device (at least at CMP) while 1023 is wide and possesses a "stinger" (with that said, their 4-wheel-drive makes it nearly impossible to hang very much of their robot off the end of the bridge. Watch any of quarterfinal 3 at the Michigan State Championship and you'll see the rather painful truth there)

Just to throw out my 2 cents, since this bothers me a little each time i see "rather painful truth" reposted.. 1023 DID balance in QF3 with you .. and everyone was on their feet screaming for the double triple... then the power went off for the end of match.. and the ball wedged between the two of you pushed you off the balance making the triple not count. So, I'm not sure I agree with your "rather painful truth" We balanced 4 times in Detroit without the stinger, we balanced on several practice fields, and had the ball not been wedged between you two, we would have balanced at states. We enjoyed playing with you at states, and look forward to seeing you at upcoming events. Maybe we will have a chance to retry that balance again.

[JosephC]

Originally Posted by Gregor01

Yes, Ed Law's Database includes all events attended per team.

That'd do it, we were absolutely horrible before we redesigned our shooter before Worlds.

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by Gregor01

Yes, Ed Law's Database includes all events attended per team.

I'd like to think of it as a decent measure of extended consistency across many matches and events.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by J_Miles

That certainly depends. In the scenario outlined, it would certainly be beneficial, where another long 'bot is present. However, I concede that it is not always necessary, especially considering the amount of length your robot is capable of extending over the end of the bridge.

If you've seen 25's weight distribution in person, you'll find that a stinger isn't exactly needed in most scenarios.

[Clinton Bolinger]

Originally Posted by Debbie

Just to throw out my 2 cents, since this bothers me a little each time i see "rather painful truth" reposted.. 1023 DID balance in QF3 with you .. and everyone was on their feet screaming for the double triple... then the power went off for the end of match.. and the ball wedged between the two of you pushed you off the balance making the triple not count. So, I'm not sure I agree with your "rather painful truth" We balanced 4 times in Detroit without the stinger, we balanced on several practice fields, and had the ball not been wedged between you two, we would have balanced at states. We enjoyed playing with you at states, and look forward to seeing you at upcoming events. Maybe we will have a chance to retry that balance again.

Debbie, I would have to say missing that triple balance was more our fault then 1023s. We should have seen that ball and cleared it out of the way.

Per usual your team has a great robot and is always fun to play with behind the glass. I look forward to seeing your team at almost all of our off season events (IGVC, MARC, IRI, and Kettering!?).

Also for the off season events we have some Rumble Pi that we are adding to our bot to help prevent the problem we had at MSC.

-Clinton-

[Debbie]

Originally Posted by Clinton Bolinger

Debbie, I would have to say missing that triple balance was more our fault then 1023s. We should have seen that ball and cleared it out of the way.

Per usual your team has a great robot and is always fun to play with behind the glass. I look forward to seeing your team at almost all of our off season events (IGVC, MARC, IRI, and Kettering!?).

Also for the off season events we have some Rumble Pi that we are adding to our bot to help prevent the problem we had at MSC.

-Clinton-

I think it was a great first attempt for our alliance. Not sure you could've seen that ball if you tried. I didn't even notice it in the stands after you were up. Had to ask Nick what happened because we were all balanced and still and then poof, we were tumbling. Hard to believe that a little nerf ball can push that big bot. (darn physics) LOL I wish we would have been able to advance further and play more with you! But definitely looking forward to that opportunity this summer.

We are trying to decide how best to use our 5 pounds also. Adding extra wheels is certainly something we have contemplated, even for worlds, but our autonomous was running so well, we didn't want to risk messing that up. Now that we have time to tinker, the team is trying to make a decision which add on would be best. Plus, waiting to see if we have additional weight at MARC or not before we dig in too much.

[George1902]

With a field of shooters this deep, I have only one prediction / word of advice:

Pick 16 in the first round or get ready to be beaten by them.

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by George1902

Pick 16 in the first round or get ready to be beaten by them.

Word.

Ya can't shoot 'em if ya ain't got 'em.

[Grim Tuesday]

Originally Posted by JosephC

That'd do it, we were absolutely horrible before we redesigned our shooter before Worlds.

I think that 68 is going to surprise everyone at IRI, just like they did on Newton. We were running a strategy where 68 did all the shooting and 330 and us (639) stayed back feeding, almost 1717 esque. It was the same strategy that 1717/330 used to win CVR. In the semifinal match that we played against them where everyone was working, 68 managed to match most of 1717's shooting. I'm still not sure why 469 was doing exclusive feeding throughout much of elims.

[Ekcrbe]

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

I think that 68 is going to surprise everyone at IRI, just like they did on Newton. We were running a strategy where 68 did all the shooting and 330 and us (639) stayed back feeding, almost 1717 esque. It was the same strategy that 1717/330 used to win CVR. In the semifinal match that we played against them where everyone was working, 68 managed to match most of 1717's shooting. I'm still not sure why 469 was doing exclusive feeding throughout much of elims.

We're still working on the last couple things, and hoping to up our game even more for IRI. It looks like the plans include a new Driver Station, definitely not fitted with the Classmate.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by George1902

With a field of shooters this deep, I have only one prediction / word of advice:

Pick 16 in the first round or get ready to be beaten by them.

16 was certainly good at the strategy they played in the championship elims, but any number of good shooters could do the exact same thing well. IRI is full of such teams.

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

16 was certainly good at the strategy they played in the championship elims, but any number of good shooters could do the exact same thing well. IRI is full of such teams.

But their maneuverability and their consistant autonomous sets the Bomb Squad apart.

[XaulZan11]

I'm curious to see how 16 plays in qualification matches at IRI. The championship ended very well for them, but I'm sure they aren't too pleased with their offensive showing. Don't forget that they were one of the 5-10 best offensive robots before the championship. Will they take the time this summer to fine tune their shooter or just play the feeding role at IRI?

I tend not to put too much effort into trying to predict IRI results. Too many teams use brand new drivers and there are some differences in how serious take the event. (everyone trys to win, but some teams prepare for it like its the championship with a full practice schedule).

[Bjenks548]

I don't see why people are so convinced one robot has to feed. I realize there is a limited number of balls this year, but 3 scorers is better then 2... but only if your smart.