2012 IRI Predictions

[Ekcrbe]

Originally Posted by mikemat

Is the field too deep to pick up a great long bot second and third round, sacrifice the triple, and hope its enough? Or are you not gaining enough over choosing from the crop of already picked-over wide bots?

I think there will be a field plenty deep enough to find wide bots that can be very beneficial during at least the second round. Remember that playing defense (think 16) is going to be just as important as scoring, and finding a great defensive team relies much more on having a good drive team and inter-team chemistry than a first-round scorer, where the robot is critical.

So I think alliances will be able to satisfy their needs with a wide bot, so I don't think there is much to gain taking a long bot with the second or third pick. You would generally take a scorer in the first round, and that's the only role I see a long bot filling. IRI will be made in the last two rounds--there are more than enough teams to create eight incredible pairs up top.

[Bjenks548]

Here's my best shot at who's long/ wide...
Long- 25, 27, 48, 111, 125, 192 217, 233, 254, 269, 292, 330, 340, 359, 379, 447, 461, 548, 573, 772, 744 781, 971, 1114, 1538, 1676, 1902, 2054, 2056, 2337, 2614 2826, 3310 3138, 3193, 3947
Wide- 33, 45, 51, 67, 68, 118, 148, 234, 245, 269, 292 341, 399, 829, 907, 1023, 1024, 1592, 1714, 1718, 1730, 1732, 2168, 2194, 2481, 2590, 2834, 2949, 3098, 3322, 3357, 3940 4334
Swerve- 16, 71, 973, 1640
Square- 469, 868
Mecanum- 503, 1741

counts: Long 36
Wide:33
Swerve: 4
Square: 2
Mecanum:2
I don't know (need some help): 0

Hopefully I got everyone on the list somewhere!

[Nick Lawrence]

Originally Posted by Bjenks548

Here's my best shot at who's long/ wide...
Long- 25, 27, 48, 71, 111, 125, 217, 233, 254, 330, 340, 359, 548, 573, 1114, 1538, 2054, 2056, 2337, 2826
Wide- 33, 45, 51, 67, 68, 118, 148, 234, 245, 341, 399, 1023, 1024, 1718, 1732, 2168, 2194, 2834, 3098, 3322, 3357, 4334
Swerve- 16, 971, 973
Square- 469,
Mecanum- 503
?- 192, 269, 292, 379, 447, 461, 624, 744, 772, 781, 829, 868, 907, 1592, 1640, 1676, 1714, 1730, 1741, 1902, 2481, 2590, 2614, 2949, 3138, 3193, 3940, 3947

Long - 379, 772, 781, 3138, 3193, 1592, 2614
Wide - 1714, 1730, 907
Swerve - 192 I think

971 is not a swerve. They're a longbot.

-Nick

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Bjenks548

Here's my best shot at who's long/ wide...
Long- 25, 27, 48, 71, 111, 125, 217, 233, 254, 330, 340, 359, 548, 573, 1114, 1538, 2054, 2056, 2337, 2826
Wide- 33, 45, 51, 67, 68, 118, 148, 234, 245, 341, 399, 1023, 1024, 1718, 1732, 2168, 2194, 2834, 3098, 3322, 3357, 4334
Swerve- 16, 971, 973
Square- 469,
Mecanum- 503
?- 192, 269, 292, 379, 447, 461, 624, 744, 772, 781, 829, 868, 907, 1592, 1640, 1676, 1714, 1730, 1741, 1902, 2481, 2590, 2614, 2949, 3138, 3193, 3940, 3947

counts: Long 20
Wide:22
Swerve: 3
Square: 1
Mecanum:1
I don't know (need some help): 28

Hopefully I got everyone on the list somewhere!

Long: 772, 781

Wide: 907, 1730, 3940

EDIT: Seems Nick beat me to it.

[Kristian Calhoun]

Originally Posted by Bjenks548

Here's my best shot at who's long/ wide...
?- 192, 269, 292, 379, 447, 461, 624, 744, 772, 781, 829, 868, 907, 1592, 1640, 1676, 1714, 1730, 1741, 1902, 2481, 2590, 2614, 2949, 3138, 3193, 3940, 3947

I don't know (need some help): 28

Long: 1676, 1902
Wide: 2590
Swerve: 1640
Square: 868

[Aidan S.]

Originally Posted by Bjenks548

Here's my best shot at who's long/ wide...
Long- 25, 27, 48, 71, 111, 125, 217, 233, 254, 330, 340, 359, 548, 573, 1114, 1538, 2054, 2056, 2337, 2826
Wide- 33, 45, 51, 67, 68, 118, 148, 234, 245, 341, 399, 1023, 1024, 1718, 1732, 2168, 2194, 2834, 3098, 3322, 3357, 4334
Swerve- 16, 971, 973
Square- 469,
Mecanum- 503
?- 192, 269, 292, 379, 447, 461, 624, 744, 772, 781, 829, 868, 907, 1592, 1640, 1676, 1714, 1730, 1741, 1902, 2481, 2590, 2614, 2949, 3138, 3193, 3940, 3947

To add to the lists:

Long - 447, 624, 744, 1741
Wide - 269, 292, 2481, 2949, 3940

Also, 192 is a long bot, not a swerve. I checked a picture of them, they have an 8 wheel drive.

Now, the only teams left unknown are 461, 829, and 3947.

[Jared Russell]

Originally Posted by Aidan S.

To add to the lists:

Long - 447, 624, 744, 1741
Wide - 269, 292, 2481, 2949, 3940

Also, 192 is a long bot, not a swerve. I checked a picture of them, they have an 8 wheel drive.

Now, the only teams left unknown are 461, 829, and 3947.

461 is long.
829 is wide.
3947 is long.

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Jared341

461 is long.
829 is wide.
3947 is long.

That was fast. Thanks CD. Now to start transferring to exel. Sigh.

[JohnSchneider]

Does nobody care about us because we're long?

[O'Sancheski]

2168 is long.

[Bjenks548]

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn

Does nobody care about us because we're long?

Very sorry I missed your team, I edited my first post and think i have everyone. Also I tend to like long bots as 548 is one!

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by Bjenks548

Very sorry I missed your team, I edited my first post and think i have everyone. Also I tend to like long bots as 548 is one!

No problem.

[bam-bam]

71 is swerve, and 1741 has octo-drive, so I guess you could place them under mecanum.

[dodar]

1592 is Wide.

[Chi Meson]

Originally Posted by O'Sancheski

2168 is long.

We're "virtually wide" as long as we are on the outside; meaning that we have a mean overhang.