2012 IRI Predictions

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by CalTran

I think that 4334 should also be on this list, as they are designed for the soul purpose of feeding Canadian Powerhouses.

Or anyone else who picks them before they do.

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[AlexD744]

As far as feeder bots go, we worked with 1714 on Galileo, and although they are great at scoring, and that was their main function on our alliance, I can also picture them doing an amazing job feeding because of their double sided pick up and smart drivers and coach.

[akoscielski3]

Originally Posted by Bjenks548

I'm curious who people think are the best feeding robots at IRI. Some honnorable mentions from me would be...
16
245
330
2194

Who else has an impressive feeding record?

I hate talking about my own team, because i dont wanna feel like im branging but...

We were paired with 1730, and 3138 at queen city for one on the matches. All we did was feed the whole match because it was 3 great offensive teams together. we stole so many balls from the opposing alliance they were struggling to find any. When they went to grab one, we would come from the side and steal the ball right from them. we fed 1730 and 3138 so great that we won that match 75-55. Here is a video of that match.

Really my point is that almost any offensive robot can feed. Some obviously better than others.

[R.C.]

16/330/4334 are probably the best feeder bots at IRI. 973 could fall into this category if they chose to @ IRI.

-RC

[Tyler Olds]

Originally Posted by R.C.

16/330/4334 are probably the best feeder bots at IRI. 973 could fall into this category if they chose to @ IRI.

-RC

I agree that 16 was an amazing feeder at champs, but I really hope they are able to get there shooter working at a high capacity so they can show off what their robot is really capable of at IRI.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by R.C.

16/330/4334 are probably the best feeder bots at IRI. 973 could fall into this category if they chose to @ IRI.

-RC

I think any devent scorer can be a great feeder, they are just rarely asked to play that role.

[R.C.]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

I think any devent scorer can be a great feeder, they are just rarely asked to play that role.

Defiantly true,

Most of the top level teams can, at IRI it'll be interesting to see how each alliance handles who to send over.

-RC

[Meredith Novak]

Originally Posted by Tyler Olds

I agree that 16 was an amazing feeder at champs, but I really hope they are able to get there shooter working at a high capacity so they can show off what their robot is really capable of at IRI.

That is obviously the plan - issues with the catapult should be resolved.

[Brandon Holley]

I'm late to the party on this one, but I felt the need to update our team info:

16 ...Swerve..
25 ...Long..Stinger In..Brakes
27 ...Long..
33 ...Wide..Stinger Out
45 ...Wide..
48 ...Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
51 ...Wide..Stinger In
67 ...Wide..Stinger Out
68 ...Wide..
71 ...Swerve..
111 ..Long..Stinger In..Brakes..Overhang+
118 ..Wide..Stinger In
125 ..Long..Stinger Out..Overhang+
148 ..Wide..Stinger In
192 ..Long..
217 ..Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
233 ..Long..
234 ..Wide..
245 ..Wide..
269 ..wide..
292 ..wide..
330 ..Long..Stinger In
340 ..Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
341 ..Wide..Stinger In..10" Hang..PID Brakes
359 ..Long..
379 ..Long..
399 ..Wide..
447 ..Long..
461 ..Long..Overhang
469 ..Square..Stinger Out
503 ..Mecanum..
548 ..Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
573 ..Long..
624 ..long..
744 ..Long..
772 ..Long..Overhang
781 ..Long..
829 ..Wide..Overhang
868 ..Square..
907 ..Wide..Stinger Out..PID Brakes
973 ..Swerve..Stinger Out..Brakes
1023 .Wide..Stinger Out
1024 .Wide..
1114 .Long..Stinger In, PID Brakes, Overhang+
1538 .Long..Stinger In..Overhang
1592 .Wide..
1640 .Swerve..
1676 .Long..Stinger In
1714 .Wide..
1718 .Wide..Stinger Out..Brakes
1730 .Wide..
1732 .Wide..
1741 .Mecanum..
1902 .Long..
2054 .Long..Stinger Out
2056 .Long..Stinger Out
2168 .Long..Stinger In
2194 .Wide..
2337 .Long..Stinger In..Overhang..Brakes
2590 .Wide..
2614 .Long..
2826 .Long..Stinger In..Overhang+..Brakes
2834 .Wide..Stinger Out
2949 .Wide..Stinger Out..Overhang
3098 .Wide..Stinger Out
3138 .Long..Stinger In..Overhang
3193 .Long..Overhang+
3310 .Long..Stinger Out..Overhang+
3322 .Wide..Stinger Out
3357 .Wide..
3940 .Wide..
3947 .Long..
4334 .Wide..

-Brando

[Gdeaver]

Any swerve drive can apply the equivalent of brakes by turning their wheels 90 degrees. That's what we do.

[Starke]

Just a heads up: Check out a picture of every robot attending the 2012 IRI on FRC Designs! You can view every robot and download the entire album!

http://www.frc-designs.com/Photos2012.html

Matt

[XaulZan11]

If you don't have 1714 on your list of best feeder bots, you'll be in for a surprise*. Although they were forced to score for their elmination alliance, I do not think they were that far behind 16 in feeding on Galileo.

*provided they use their same driveteam.

[Gregor]

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=184
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=219

Moved to this thread

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...28#post1175928

[Jared Russell]

Here's a thought...

Getting into IRI is largely (but not entirely) due to on-field results. Since triple balancing is a significant factor in this game, it stands to reason that robots that have triple balanced reliably in competition had an advantage when it came to getting invited.

However, no OPR stats reflect the ability to triple balance (since there is no 40 point bonus in qualification rounds, and in elims there is no such thing as OPR).

In light of this, I tested the hypothesis that, on average, the long robots invited to IRI have a higher OPR than the non-longs. (I used the invitation list since I'm not clear whether the "final" acceptance list has been posted)

What I found (based on the post-Championship Ed Law scouting database; all OPR numbers are adjusted for the co-op bridge):

Best event OPR:
Average for longs: 28.5
Average for non-longs: 26.7

Latest event OPR:
Average for longs: 25.7
Average for non-longs: 24.0

"World rank" weighted average OPR:
Average for longs: 23.4
Average for non-longs: 21.3

Hypothesis confirmed. On average, long bots at IRI are 1.7 - 2.2 OPR points better than wides. An alliance with 3 longs has a projected total score anywhere from 5.2 to 6.5 points higher than an alliance with 3 non-longs (depending on your preferred metric).

Between the on-paper advantage of ~2 more balls in the high goal per match for an all-long alliance, and the fact that triple balancing necessarily means that everyone must stop shooting early and carries no guarantee of success, maybe things aren't so bad for longs after all

[akoscielski3]

I wasn't sure where else to post this without opening another thread for no reason so here it is.

Team 772 will be traveling from Windsor Ontario (just across the border from Detroit). We will only be having 4 students at the competition. We have The two drivers, a programmer, and another member from the business side of the team. the programmer and business member will be switching as Human player, and my brother will be the Drive coach. SO... what I am pretty much asking is if people would be able to help us out if we needed something in an emergency? We are also wondering if we could use someone else's scouting data for the competition during alliance selections? I know scouting is a lot to ask but we don't have the people to do it at this competition.

AND most importantly! We will need some help with our cheer while getting announced! Our cheer is very well known in Canada and is slowly getting known throughout the states. When our team number gets announced we aren't called 772, The MC will say "SEVEN SEVEN WHO!??!?!" and our team (and others in the stands) will respond "SEVEN SEVEN TWO!!!!!". Its a pretty fun cheer and I'm hoping everyone will help us out

Thanks FIRST Family