FIRST is really looking into the Einstein problems

[daniel_dsouza]

connection problems happen to even the most prepared...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQO...feature=fvwrel

if you are in a hurry, go to 1:33.

[qzrrbz]

Originally Posted by daniel_dsouza

connection problems happen to even the most prepared...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQO...feature=fvwrel

if you are in a hurry, go to 1:33.

And they figured out what was happening ... ~500 wi-fi base stations in the crowd, and the phone couldn't handle that. When they had the crowd "dim" the base stations, it worked. Hmmm...

[Jim Wilks]

It's now been over a month since the re-enactment of the Einstein saga. Not a word from FIRST since the last email stating they "needed a few weeks" to analyse data.

I maintain that if they had found something concrete they would have shared something about it.

[Mark McLeod]

Frank mentioned it again last week.

Originally Posted by FRC Blog

Thursday, July 5, 2012

Where’s the Einstein Report?


Hello Teams,

I’m sure you’re wondering what the status is of the Einstein report. I can tell you that our internal staff, with a great deal of support from our outside experts and the Einstein teams themselves, have been working very hard on this. The current draft report is over 20 pages long, and includes lots of detail. Getting all these details right is taking some time, but we hope to have a final version ready for release shortly.

I did want to share with you a photo taken during Einstein Weekend, June 9-June 10th. That’s a great deal of talent represented in one place at one time, all working on a common cause!

Frank

[CalTran]

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod

Frank mentioned it again last week.

It's good to hear that they're making progress. Probably not the progress some people are looking for, but they're not going to bust the entire wireless problem in 2 days of official testing.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

Everyone,
The report is getting very, very close. Bill's departure has added to the workload a little at HQ.

[linuxboy]

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz

Everyone,
The report is getting very, very close. Bill's departure has added to the workload a little at HQ.

Excuse me while I go obsessively check the FRC Blog every few minutes.

[billbo911]

This is from the introduction to the PDF containing the results of the testing.

Additionally, Einstein match play suffered from an intentional act of interference.

I'm too stunned to say more!

[Alexa Stott]

Thread about the report here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=107285

[Jim Wilks]

Read the report in detail.

Lots of "might haves" and "possiblys". No real root cause whatsoever identified. The mystery lives on.

[Hjelstrom]

Originally Posted by Jim Wilks

Read the report in detail.

Lots of "might haves" and "possiblys". No real root cause whatsoever identified. The mystery lives on.

That is definitely not the impression I got after attending the New Hampshire meeting. The FIRST and NI engineers did a fantastic job. They broke down every match for every robot and investigated every segment of time where control was lost. Every single failure was explained very well.

They are being conservative in what the claim as "intentional interference". Even in matches where a witness saw the individual doing what we now know was the hack, they described it as "likely". Only in the case where the individual *admitted* to it, is it described as "confirmed".

We left New Hampshire with the confidence that there will be many specific improvements next year and that hacks like this will be detected by the field. I honestly look forward to the improvements in the system next year.

[JaneYoung]

The report has been made public and there has been time to read and review the findings.

There was a big push for FIRST to act, and act quickly, following the troubles that arose on the 2012 Einstein field competition.

I'm interested in seeing what type of closure this has brought to this thread and to those who contributed to it. The thought, with great power comes great responsibility, has been with me for several days. I've been trying to poke holes in the thought as it applies to the work that was done by everyone committed to identifying the problems and documenting them. I can't find any holes to poke - everyone involved acted responsibly and with great integrity. The experience, and how it has been handled, provides all of us with insight towards a newly raised bar of working together, sharing knowledge and experience, and being humble and open to the process of identifying weaknesses, trouble spots, and problems. It's not an easy thing to do to keep egos in check and trust the opportunity being made available. We can all learn from these teams and these leaders who were willing to step up to that bar and, by doing so, move it to a higher level.

It's been an incredible experience to be able to follow this process from the peanut gallery. I won't put what I've experienced and learned from all of you to waste. I will use it wisely. This is a promise.

Thank you.

Jane