[FRC Blog] Einstein Report Released

[Ekcrbe]

Originally Posted by Gregor

Do they really have a GP issue? If someone killed another person and then waited 4 years to confess, would it be wrong for the family members to hold a grudge (an extreme case but you get my point)? As Tyler pointed out here, no one but the twelve Einstein teams know what it is like to be cheated out of a fair shot at the gold. If I were them, I'm sure I would still be angry 4 years from now. Heck, I'm not them and I'll probably still be angry. This post gives a very personal view into what these teams had to go through this season. Why should they forgive this individual? I think there would be a problem if these teams were not still angry after some time has passed (say 4 years?). I have no problem with teams holding a grudge after putting in hundreds of hours, dollars, and heartache into their teams, and that is only for this season alone. Multiply by how many years each team member has been involved with their team, and you get the magic number of how angry each and every one of them should be should be.

No, no, no. I'm sorry for any ambiguity in my previous post. I meant it would be wrong for the victims to be mad at the associated team, not the individual him/herself. After four years of time to numb the pain slightly, I would expect reasonable people, like FIRSTers, to have cleared their vision and then be able to see that the associated team itself is not (we hope) the bad guy. The rest of that team could be, in a roundabout way, like victims themselves, because of the horrible publicity potentially brought down upon them by the community at large.
I hope that hailstorm doesn't come to them.

To what you did say, of course they will be mad, and justified in being so.

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Ekcrbe

No, no, no. I'm sorry for any ambiguity in my previous post. I meant it would be wrong for the victims to be mad at the associated team, not the individual him/herself. After four years of time to numb the pain slightly, I would expect reasonable people, like FIRSTers, to have cleared their vision and then be able to see that the associated team itself is not (we hope) the bad guy. The rest of that team could be, in a roundabout way, like victims themselves, because of the horrible publicity potentially brought down upon them by the community at large.
I hope that hailstorm doesn't come to them.

To what you did say, of course they will be mad, and justified in being so.

When the individual's name and assoisted team are finally discovered, I would like to think that the FIRST community wouldn't hold the team to blame. I couldn't imagine it if someone from my team did something like this. That would already be agonizing for the team in itself. To then be know as the team who ruined Einstein 2012 will be a sad, yet albeit inevitable add on.

[Ekcrbe]

Originally Posted by Gregor

To then be know as the team who ruined Einstein 2012 will be a sad, yet albeit inevitable add on.

I challenge the FIRST community to be above this and avoid putting this stigma on an unfortunate team and consider everyone in this team's influence innocent until proven guilty. There's no guarantee the perpetrator acted alone, but it would be even sadder and stranger to find a cast of co-conspirators. I doubt this will be the case.

[Akash Rastogi]

Did anyone from 1717 get to formally investigate with FIRST the cause of their issues during division eliminations?

Seems logical to look into their case as well as other communication issues during eliminations at Champs, albeit, probably without inviting all teams to Manchester it might be difficult. At least it would give these other teams piece of mind as well knowing that it is not solely some issue with code/electronics that caused their issues during elims.