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How do you motivate students who just don't care?
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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast, What would YOU like to hear about? Fall 2012.

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How do you motivate students who just don't care?
This.

And possibly some team organization/structure (although I think you already did this, I can't remember at the moment) stuff. Places/ways to find new good mentors, both technical and non?
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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast, What would YOU like to hear about? Fall 2012.

2 questions.

1. How can you keep scouts entertained.

2. How can you upfront the number 1 seed or power house alliance in rebound rumble when you are the 8th seed and can't outscore them ?
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This times infinity. Also, how do you motivate mentors and sponsors who aren't feeling the FIRST fever?
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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast, What would YOU like to hear about? Fall 2012.

Team organizational structure. Students, Coaches, Mentors, Parents included.

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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast, What would YOU like to hear about? Fall 2012.

How to convince people that scouting is important, and get people to respect it.
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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast, What would YOU like to hear about? Fall 2012.

Deep dive into batteries. They are still a mystery to me. How do they work. How to keep them ready for use, how to store them over the summer.
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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast, What would YOU like to hear about? Fall 2012.

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2 questions.

1. How can you keep scouts entertained.
Since this was mentioned a couple of times, I figured I'd chime in. There's some good discussion of that in the Scouting Section of this presentation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apk_X...ilpage#t=2880s

There are two keys:

1. Instill a team culture that values scouting, and where watching matches is seen as fun. This especially applies for teams where most kids would rather play cards or dance in the stands than watch matches. Lots of ways to do this, but involves the team leadership being excited scouting. People follow their respected leaders.
2. Make it fun.
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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast, What would YOU like to hear about? Fall 2012.

I'd love to do a cast about effective pick list making. (I.E you're the #1 seed at a regional without much depth.)

Or maybe an "Ask EWCP" cast where people call in and ask a panel of EWCPCast members questions.

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I'd love to do a cast about effective pick list making. (I.E you're the #1 seed at a regional without much depth.)

Or maybe an "Ask EWCP" cast where people call in and ask a panel of EWCPCast members questions.

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And how to rank second pick teams specifically.
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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast, What would YOU like to hear about? Fall 2012.

I loved the cast on "Behind AndyMark"

Is there a chance you could get other companies such as: WCP - Team221 - CrossTheRoad to talk about what they are working on and what their goals are. Or something along those lines. We bought stuff from all three vendors last year. All were easy to work with and had solid products.
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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast, What would YOU like to hear about? Fall 2012.

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IF you're lucky enough (4th to 1st seed) to be able to pick the 21st, 22nd, 23rd, and 24th robots/teams in a regional... HOW do you handle/work-with these teams, especially if they're Rookies, to achieve the best success...

I believe it takes a lot more than having extra charged batteries to lend to get through the elims to victory... WHAT'S the secret-sauce the _best teams_ employ to get the best results?
Noted.

Michael, I sent you a PM, let me know what you think.

I believe a 'How to Qualify' and a 'How to play in the Elims' cast may be a appropriate.

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We're talking about doing a resource utilization cast, I think we can roll this into that cast.

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How do you motivate students who just don't care?
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This is going to be a tough one.

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This.

And possibly some team organization/structure (although I think you already did this, I can't remember at the moment) stuff. Places/ways to find new good mentors, both technical and non?
Brandon, when you get a chance, talk to me about this. We'd love to talk about finding new mentors, but I want some outside opinions. We've been discussing creating an online resource that can find mentors local to you, but I'm not sure if we'll be able to roll this out before the season starts.

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2 questions.

1. How can you keep scouts entertained.

2. How can you upfront the number 1 seed or power house alliance in rebound rumble when you are the 8th seed and can't outscore them ?
See Karthik's post later in this thread, I don't believe we can top that.

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In the wake of the 71 issue how about a topic of diversification of sponsors.
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This times infinity. Also, how do you motivate mentors and sponsors who aren't feeling the FIRST fever?
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Team organizational structure. Students, Coaches, Mentors, Parents included.

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Definitely a good one, Noted.

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Deep dive into batteries. They are still a mystery to me. How do they work. How to keep them ready for use, how to store them over the summer.
Sisk, good idea. Batteries are still a bit of a black art. We'll need to reach out to some specialists, but it's definitely a worthwhile cast.

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Since this was mentioned a couple of times, I figured I'd chime in. There's some good discussion of that in the Scouting Section of this presentation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apk_X...ilpage#t=2880s

There are two keys:

1. Instill a team culture that values scouting, and where watching matches is seen as fun. This especially applies for teams where most kids would rather play cards or dance in the stands than watch matches. Lots of ways to do this, but involves the team leadership being excited scouting. People follow their respected leaders.
2. Make it fun.
Thanks Karthik, odds are that this is better advice than we'd be able to give.

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I'd love to do a cast about effective pick list making. (I.E you're the #1 seed at a regional without much depth.)

Or maybe an "Ask EWCP" cast where people call in and ask a panel of EWCPCast members questions.

-Nick
Nick, we'd roll pick list structure into the Elims cast, I think.

As far as an Ask EWCP Cast, I'm sure we can arrange this. Maybe it'll take the place of our Pre-Kickoff nostalgia cast.

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And how to rank second pick teams specifically.
Noted, we may roll this into an Elims cast.

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I loved the cast on "Behind AndyMark"

Is there a chance you could get other companies such as: WCP - Team221 - CrossTheRoad to talk about what they are working on and what their goals are. Or something along those lines. We bought stuff from all three vendors last year. All were easy to work with and had solid products.
This shouldn't be a problem. I will reach out to RC (member of EWCP) and see if he's on board. We'll also contact some other vendors and see if we can make something happen.

Thanks for all of the feedback guys, it's great!
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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast, What would YOU like to hear about? Fall 2012.

A cast about devices high level teams get but a lot of teams don't(at least at first).

Examples:
Stingers, over the bumper intakes 2012
Hinged Roller claws, mini bot ramp 2011
Hanging off the vertical pole 2010
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=106388

Just a discussion on how teams came up with doing those devices, and what about them worked so well.
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Re: [EWCP] EWCPcast, What would YOU like to hear about? Fall 2012.

A potential cast that I can see being beneficial is described below.

Topic: FIRST after High School
- Mentoring/Not Mentoring in College
- Volunteering
- Taking a Break
- Joining a New Team
- Finding your Role
- etc.

Call ins from various FIRSTers who have made the transition, senior mentors, volunteer coordinators etc.
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A potential cast that I can see being beneficial is described below.

Topic: FIRST after High School
- Mentoring/Not Mentoring in College
- Volunteering
- Taking a Break
- Joining a New Team
- Finding your Role
- etc.

Call ins from various FIRSTers who have made the transition, senior mentors, volunteer coordinators etc.
I would love to hear a cast on this as it pretty much sum up everything I am doing this fall.

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