How did you come to do webpage design?

[Celia]

Hi there! As the title suggests, I was wondering how you came to do webpage design for your team. I am on a mission this year to recruit for our team, hopefully finding people for new subteams. I feel like our website could be so so so much better, but we would need a new member(s) to do this. No one currently on the team has expressed any interest in it's upkeep. I've seen schedules with upcoming events and times and even food-bringing schedules on other teams' sites! So basically, I would love to know how you came to this so I can know how to find new team members that may be interested in improving our website. Or if you just have tips on recruiting in general, that would help too. Thank you very much.
--Celia

[gracie.]

Hey, welcome to CD! I love the Hank Green quote.

I came to be on the website team out of equal parts boredom and interest. I had some pretty strong ideas about what we could do with the site, and I had four hours of summer school to sit through every morning (AKA website editing time)! So I'm a strange case, but I think a good place to start is to see if anyone on your team has experience in HTML or CSS (I don't, but now I realize how useful that would be). Does anyone know a lot about your team history? Helps organize the team? Reaches out to sponsors? If no one is just interested, you could call on these people to help make your website useful and beautiful. They all have something to give or gain from a good site.

And if that doesn't work, make the freshmen do it.

As far as general recruiting, I'm not really in a position to give advice until I see if our strategy this year worked. I'm crossing my fingers...

-Graccie

[Celia]

Originally Posted by gracie.

Hey, welcome to CD! I love the Hank Green quote.

I came to be on the website team out of equal parts boredom and interest. I had some pretty strong ideas about what we could do with the site, and I had four hours of summer school to sit through every morning (AKA website editing time)! So I'm a strange case, but I think a good place to start is to see if anyone on your team has experience in HTML or CSS (I don't, but now I realize how useful that would be). Does anyone know a lot about your team history? Helps organize the team? Reaches out to sponsors? If no one is just interested, you could call on these people to help make your website useful and beautiful. They all have something to give or gain from a good site.

And if that doesn't work, make the freshmen do it.

As far as general recruiting, I'm not really in a position to give advice until I see if our strategy this year worked. I'm crossing my fingers...

-Graccie

Thank you! As of now, we have no freshman =( My school has one web page design class, so I was thinking of talking to the teacher to see if he had any students that really liked it. All of us know about our team history luckily, but I don't believe our team captain has any interest in doing the site. Maybe I'll make a survey about the site for the team... I appreciate the help and by the way, I like your team name!

[kiasam111]

Its really nice to see the integration of various important elements in your website! I especially like the calendar's presence on the home page. Just a few questions.

1. Is the home page the only page of your website? If not, it isn't really clear. Just something to think about.
2. Have you thought about shortening the details on the home page? This is the first page that any visitor will see on your website, and the information that is on that website is rather detailed on topics that could be covered on other pages.

Just a few comments to help you improve =)

Good Luck!

[gracie.]

Originally Posted by Celia

Thank you! As of now, we have no freshman =( My school has one web page design class, so I was thinking of talking to the teacher to see if he had any students that really liked it. All of us know about our team history luckily, but I don't believe our team captain has any interest in doing the site. Maybe I'll make a survey about the site for the team... I appreciate the help and by the way, I like your team name!

We'll find out sometime in September whether we managed to convince anyone to join the team... I'm worried we scared them off we really need freshmen.

Perhaps you could get the web design teacher to make it a class project? Did you build your site from scratch or are you using something like Wordpress?

Good luck getting people involved, and if there's anything I can help you with let me know!

[RyanCesiel]

I started doing web design/development in 6th grade after learning to make a website for a gaming group. At the same time, I was active on the Neowin tech forum where there is a graphics/media user marketplace and exchange. So, as a youngster I got excited about the prospect of making a buck or two .

From there it was just a big snowball effect. By the time I was in 8th grade I was fairly good at what I was doing and my brother was on the robotics team. They needed to their website updated and reached out to me. Throughout my time on the team, I redesigned/revamped our website several times until it became what it is today.

In high school, I managed websites attracting 50,000 different people and 300,000+ page views (and that's small) from around the world. Additionally, while my friends were flipping burgers and waiting tables, I was sitting at home making more than at least twice their hourly wage doing web/graphic design for local businesses and organizations .

So, if the prospect of learning something new and exciting isn't attracting anyone, consider showing them the possibilities of what someone can do once they attain these skills. My story dwarfs in comparison to some industry successes (Facebook, Twitter, etc).

[Celia]

Originally Posted by kiasam111

Its really nice to see the integration of various important elements in your website! I especially like the calendar's presence on the home page. Just a few questions.

1. Is the home page the only page of your website? If not, it isn't really clear. Just something to think about.
2. Have you thought about shortening the details on the home page? This is the first page that any visitor will see on your website, and the information that is on that website is rather detailed on topics that could be covered on other pages.

Just a few comments to help you improve =)

Good Luck!

Thank you very much for the feedback! If/when someone wants to "take care" of it, we will definitely work on making it easier to navigate. I don't think anyone really controls the website on our team, so our calendar never has anything on it. It's just kind of abandoned.

1. We also have a team photo/video page (most recently updated page) and a documents page. They're linked at the very top.
2. I know all the details seem very intimidating =) The website isn't exactly marketed towards non-team-240 members right now... It's mostly for freshman to read up on team history, but I wish it wouldn't scare people off.

--Celia

[Celia]

Originally Posted by gracie.

We'll find out sometime in September whether we managed to convince anyone to join the team... I'm worried we scared them off we really need freshmen.

Perhaps you could get the web design teacher to make it a class project? Did you build your site from scratch or are you using something like Wordpress?

Good luck getting people involved, and if there's anything I can help you with let me know!

The teacher used to be involved with the team, so that may be a possibility. That would be a fun way for people to get a preview of part of robotics!

As for the site, I have no idea. I'd assume we don't do it from scratch, as each teacher/group controls their own page. So that would make it easier for a beginner to start, right? Thanks!

--Celia

[Celia]

Originally Posted by RyanCesiel

I started doing web design/development in 6th grade after learning to make a website for a gaming group. At the same time, I was active on the Neowin tech forum where there is a graphics/media user marketplace and exchange. So, as a youngster I got excited about the prospect of making a buck or two .

From there it was just a big snowball effect. By the time I was in 8th grade I was fairly good at what I was doing and my brother was on the robotics team. They needed to their website updated and reached out to me. Throughout my time on the team, I redesigned/revamped our website several times until it became what it is today.

In high school, I managed websites attracting 50,000 different people and 300,000+ page views (and that's small) from around the world. Additionally, while my friends were flipping burgers and waiting tables, I was sitting at home making more than at least twice their hourly wage doing web/graphic design for local businesses and organizations .

So, if the prospect of learning something new and exciting isn't attracting anyone, consider showing them the possibilities of what someone can do once they attain these skills. My story dwarfs in comparison to some industry successes (Facebook, Twitter, etc).

That is an awesome story. I couldn't imagine doing something that big.

On another side of things, my team was next to yours in the pits at states this year. We taped one of your rubber ducks to our robot's shooter XD

[sg999]

When I first joined my robotics team, they wanted me to do website design because I had experience with HTML and javascript, but I got really offended that they didn't even bother asking me what I wanted to do (programming), so for the first half of the year, I stayed as far away from web design as possible. However, towards the second half of the year, when our sole non engineering member quit, we still had no website. In the middle of build season, I was unable to go to meetings for two weeks, but I still wanted to contribute, and the only way I could do so was through making our team a website.

Morale of the story? Just because someone has experience with web design (or anything else for that matter), don't assume that's what they want to do in robotics. (Sorry, not very helpful, I know)

One thing that we're doing this year is that we're joining forces with FBLA (Future Business Leaders of America) because they're a really big group and some of them have expressed interest in starting an online business. I think we're supposed to be getting a couple of them to help me with the website this year.

[Celia]

Originally Posted by sg999

When I first joined my robotics team, they wanted me to do website design because I had experience with HTML and javascript, but I got really offended that they didn't even bother asking me what I wanted to do (programming), so for the first half of the year, I stayed as far away from web design as possible. However, towards the second half of the year, when our sole non engineering member quit, we still had no website. In the middle of build season, I was unable to go to meetings for two weeks, but I still wanted to contribute, and the only way I could do so was through making our team a website.

Morale of the story? Just because someone has experience with web design (or anything else for that matter), don't assume that's what they want to do in robotics. (Sorry, not very helpful, I know)

One thing that we're doing this year is that we're joining forces with FBLA (Future Business Leaders of America) because they're a really big group and some of them have expressed interest in starting an online business. I think we're supposed to be getting a couple of them to help me with the website this year.

Thank you for the moral. Getting people interested in other aspects is something we need, too, as a third of our team graduated last school year. Web page just seems like a good way to this, even if they end up doing build or something.

That's pretty cool that the FBLA are helping you out! It would be fun to team up with a group like that. So now, do you enjoy doing the website or would you rather be solely a programmer?

--Celia

[North Sailor]

Hmm, about to get all nestalgic...

I had always been a creative type, and loved business concepts, however when I was in high school, my robotics team had just started. They didnt do half bad (winning rookie all-star at worlds) but because of how "proud" they were they didnt have the best reputation at first with the entire student body. But in truth I think the rest of us were just jealous.

Either way, the team wanted to turn their workspace into a home and so they asked me a member of the art class to paint a mural of their logo on the wall. At first I thought the logo was really bad, but I painted it anyways. It turned out that the wall that the mural was on, was directly overlooking the computers that the web team used.

Being the opinionated little brat that I was my junior year of high school, I analyzed their work, and started a conversation with them. I thought I could do better, though I lacked the coding experience. I joined the team the following year as the co-webmaster. I managed all of the content and graphics and another student did all the coding.

We became really good friends, and ultimately with my joining the team, the entire team attitude changed and became more accepting of everyone in the school, not just the hard core nerds.

The team is now really popular, and recruits students both in and outside of the engineering classes. I now serve as a mentor for the team, responsible for the entire business and web team. And, I am more than just a creative-art-type. I actually graduated from college in Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering, and am a civilian engineer for the Navy now.

---

I guess the advice that comes out of my story is that rather than trying to simply recruit students already interested in engineering to go work on the website, you should try to focus your efforts on those non-engineering students in your school, who like art, and are creative. They might even find in the process that they like engineering...which is the ultimate goal of FIRST anyways.

(maybe ask them to paint you a mural, and in the process show them how fun FIRST is.)

[sg999]

Originally Posted by Celia

Thank you for the moral. Getting people interested in other aspects is something we need, too, as a third of our team graduated last school year. Web page just seems like a good way to this, even if they end up doing build or something.

That's pretty cool that the FBLA are helping you out! It would be fun to team up with a group like that. So now, do you enjoy doing the website or would you rather be solely a programmer?

--Celia

The website I did solely at home, so it wasn't too bad. I don't mind doing the website, but since I made it, I would want to be the one to do the upkeep for it. Given the choice though, I would have much rather let some one else do the website, because it's not something I'm interested in. This year, I'm going to start transitioning the role of website team/webmaster to FBLA because I'm graduating in June, so I kind of have to.

On a different note, I agree with North Sailor in that you never know where you can find people interested in robotics. (Apparently our accounting classes are also helping us take care of team finances.) I really shouldn't talk, because my team is so small, but make sure you do advertising for your team _everywhere_.

[kiasam111]

Originally Posted by Celia

Thank you very much for the feedback! If/when someone wants to "take care" of it, we will definitely work on making it easier to navigate. I don't think anyone really controls the website on our team, so our calendar never has anything on it. It's just kind of abandoned.

1. We also have a team photo/video page (most recently updated page) and a documents page. They're linked at the very top.
2. I know all the details seem very intimidating =) The website isn't exactly marketed towards non-team-240 members right now... It's mostly for freshman to read up on team history, but I wish it wouldn't scare people off.

--Celia

Try adding a team history page =D And keep experimenting!!

[Celia]

Originally Posted by North Sailor

Hmm, about to get all nestalgic...

I had always been a creative type, and loved business concepts, however when I was in high school, my robotics team had just started. They didnt do half bad (winning rookie all-star at worlds) but because of how "proud" they were they didnt have the best reputation at first with the entire student body. But in truth I think the rest of us were just jealous.

Either way, the team wanted to turn their workspace into a home and so they asked me a member of the art class to paint a mural of their logo on the wall. At first I thought the logo was really bad, but I painted it anyways. It turned out that the wall that the mural was on, was directly overlooking the computers that the web team used.

Being the opinionated little brat that I was my junior year of high school, I analyzed their work, and started a conversation with them. I thought I could do better, though I lacked the coding experience. I joined the team the following year as the co-webmaster. I managed all of the content and graphics and another student did all the coding.

We became really good friends, and ultimately with my joining the team, the entire team attitude changed and became more accepting of everyone in the school, not just the hard core nerds.

The team is now really popular, and recruits students both in and outside of the engineering classes. I now serve as a mentor for the team, responsible for the entire business and web team. And, I am more than just a creative-art-type. I actually graduated from college in Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering, and am a civilian engineer for the Navy now.

---

I guess the advice that comes out of my story is that rather than trying to simply recruit students already interested in engineering to go work on the website, you should try to focus your efforts on those non-engineering students in your school, who like art, and are creative. They might even find in the process that they like engineering...which is the ultimate goal of FIRST anyways.

(maybe ask them to paint you a mural, and in the process show them how fun FIRST is.)

That's a nice story about some acceptance =) I'm glad your team has "grown" that way! I like the mural suggestion, too. In my school, the AP art kids get to paint the classroom doors!

Each year, we do a robotics presentation for the school, so everyone at least vaguely knows of the team. I was focusing on more personal recruiting, but talking to some of the artsy-er people never even crossed my mind. Thank you! I'll definitely explore that option.

--Celia