FRC "Population" Maps

[jwallace15]

I'm not sure on the exact number, but approximately 34 of Michigan's teams come from 1 county- Oakland. That's more than 22 states!

[EllaElectrical]

No problem
Yeah when I was making it ,it was really crazy to see the differences between different states. And where the "population density" was really high.

[dk5sm5luigi]

You should try to make one that does the states by percentage of schools covered.

[MARS_James]

Originally Posted by dk5sm5luigi

You should try to make one that does the states by percentage of schools covered.

That would be really challenging considering the multiple school teams that don't have all the schools in the name (We are an example since we have Jupiter and William T. Dwyer High Schools in our name, but also recruit from 5 other schools) or teams that don't have have schools like the boys and girls clubs

[dk5sm5luigi]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

That would be really challenging considering the multiple school teams that don't have all the schools in the name (We are an example since we have Jupiter and William T. Dwyer High Schools in our name, but also recruit from 5 other schools) or teams that don't have have schools like the boys and girls clubs

I never said it would be easy, it would put things in perspective though. Small states right now look like they don't have as many teams even though they may have a larger percentage covered.

[EllaElectrical]

Originally Posted by dk5sm5luigi

I never said it would be easy, it would put things in perspective though. Small states right now look like they don't have as many teams even though they may have a larger percentage covered.

Yes it probably would take a while but it's a good idead. I'll start trying to make a basic high school percentage map. Because you are right my maps aren't in the best perspective. One of my team mates also brought up a map that showed percentage of teams near major cities for another perspective.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

That would be really challenging considering the multiple school teams that don't have all the schools in the name (We are an example since we have Jupiter and William T. Dwyer High Schools in our name, but also recruit from 5 other schools) or teams that don't have have schools like the boys and girls clubs

Teams wih multiple schools wouldnt matter. All you would do is take (# of teams/# of high schools in the state)*100 = % of teams per school per state.

[MARS_James]

Originally Posted by dodar

Teams wih multiple schools wouldnt matter. All you would do is take (# of teams/# of high schools in the state)*100 = % of teams per school per state.

The original statement was percentage of schools covered not the percentage of teams in relations to schools so yes multiple school teams do matter

[dodar]

Originally Posted by MARS_James

The original statement was percentage of schools covered not the percentage of teams in relations to schools so yes multiple school teams do matter

Oh, ya I missread the post. You could still do it that way though. On the FIRST website, each school per team is listed as a sponsor.

[Racer26]

Also kind of cool: Toronto has the 2nd highest concentration of any city. FIRST still USA-centric? No.

[Racer26]

City, Teams, Population, Est. Percentage of population on a FIRST team

(based on 20 members per team)

Check out Liberty, IN. 11 1 team(s) in a town of 2133 people, for an estimated FIRST participation of 10% 1% of the population!

Houston, TX, USA	30	2145146	0.0280%
Toronto, ON, Canada	29	2615060	0.0222%
Chicago, IL, USA	28	2707120	0.0207%
Detroit, MI, USA	26	706585	0.0736%
Montréal, QC, Canada	19	1649519	0.0230%
Washington, DC, USA	18	617996	0.0583%
San Antonio, TX, USA	18	1359758	0.0265%
San Diego, CA, USA	17	1326179	0.0256%
Kansas City, MO, USA	16	463202	0.0691%
Honolulu, HI, USA	16	374658	0.0854%
Atlanta, GA, USA	16	432427	0.0740%
San Jose, CA, USA	15	967487	0.0310%
Rochester, NY, USA	13	210855	0.1233%
Phoenix, AZ, USA	13	1469471	0.0177%
Dallas, TX, USA	13	1223229	0.0213%
Bronx, NY, USA	13	1392002	0.0187%
Milwaukee, WI, USA	12	597867	0.0401%
Los Angeles, CA, USA	12	3819702	0.0063%
Las Vegas, NV, USA	12	589317	0.0407%
Columbus, OH, USA	12	797434	0.0301%
Baltimore, MD, USA	12	619493	0.0387%
New York, NY, USA	11	8244910	0.0027%
Liberty, IN, USA	1	2133	0.9376%
Brooklyn, NY, USA	11	2532645	0.0087%
St. Louis, MO, USA	10	318069	0.0629%
Richmond, VA, USA	10	205533	0.0973%
Portland, OR, USA	10	593820	0.0337%
Mississauga, ON, Canada	10	713443	0.0280%
Minneapolis, MN, USA	10	387753	0.0516%
Denver, CO, USA	10	619968	0.0323%

Edit: Helps when the source information is valid. There's a problem with your numbers, there is only one team, 4058, in Liberty, IN. 1% is still impressive though! (source: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....2E#FRC_te ams)

[Mark McLeod]

I don't think Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, or the Bronx count as cities separate from New York City...

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod

I don't think Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, or the Bronx count as cities separate from New York City...

Which highlights the one major problem with the FIRST website location column: The teams fill it out, which means that sometimes you get addresses, and sometimes you get regions. 12 teams in Los Angeles--but if you look at the area around L.A. proper, there are easily enough for 2 small regionals with minimal outside or repeat teams. (And I know that one of the teams at least used to use "Southern California" as their location--talk about vague!) You're also hoping that nobody misspells their team name.

[Nate Laverdure]

Originally Posted by EricH

Which highlights the one major problem with the FIRST website location column...

...Which is why Mark at 358 has been collecting more accurate team locations (in the form of the GPS coordinates of each team's school) in his All FRC Teams Ever (XLS link) spreadsheet. He's got just over 20% of them now.

[Jon Stratis]

Another oddity...

St. Paul, MN - 6
Saint Paul, MN - 5


1075guy, where do your population numbers come from?

In doing an analysis against population, does it make sense to look at numbers by city or some other grouping? Most major cities have significant suburbs that would show up as different cities on the listing. For example, Woodbury, MN has 3 teams, and is about 5 minutes from downtown St. Paul. These suburbs typically have lower population numbers, but could contribute significantly to the number of teams around that city.

Given the data available to us, doing it might be best to do it by state.