[FTC]: Extent of Possession

[RRLedford]

This clarification is still vague.
It focuses too much concept "fully supported."

What if, driving, my bot bashes onto the row of dispenser rings and possess only the outer two but my inner ring grip element plows under the third ring enough to slightly elevate it off the PVC pipe. Am I now possessing three?

Even though reversing the bot would release the third ring and it would drop back down on the pipe.

Does the same rule concept for possession while rolling on the floor & touching/moving rings apply to the dispenser and the scoring rack?

Meaning that pushing, moving, touching, and elevating rings on the dispenser and scoring pipes will only be considered possession if a different direction movement of the bot or bot mechanism will not cause the touched 3rd ring to follow along with that motion.

So if my ring gathering element presses up against the 3tird ring as it controls the outer two rings, but a reverse motion of what initiated the pressing against the third ring leaves it hanging on the PVC pipe and not following the bot in any way, then hopefully this is legal? If not most teams will be getting penalties.

Where it becomes vague is when the bot may go too far onto the dispenser and overshoot the outer ring, instead gripping only the 2nd and 3rd rings, but the first one still hanging free outside them. Now, if the bot retracts from the dispenser, three rings will be moved off the pipe.

So even if the outer ring just falls to the floor, will the pushing of it allong with the other two be a penalty?
-Dick Ledford