2013 Game Hint!

[Dustin Pepper]

Assuming this is a real hint, the song is off of the album, "Whenever You Need Somebody." Maybe back the 2v2 with a reserve, but 2v2v2 each with a reserve? That would be kinda cool.

[dellagd]

Originally Posted by Jay1986

I don't know if this has already been discussed but in the song, rick repeats

"We know the game and we're gonna play it"

Updated previous game? maybe

I thought that too, and thats what scares me.

Personally, I think thats pretty lame, because there will be two distinct groups of teams playing in such a scenario.

Those who played the game once ago, and those who didnt. Unfair advantage, maybe?

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by dellagd

I thought that too, and thats what scares me.

Personally, I think thats pretty lame, because there will be two distinct groups of teams playing in such a scenario.

Those who played the game once ago, and those who didnt. Unfair advantage, maybe?

If it's not a recent game (aka past 3 years), then there won't be any returning students. It's kind of hard to quantify the impact returning mentors can make, however the further back you go, you get fewer of them as well.

Further, with sites like the blue alliance, if it is a replay of a previous game, then everyone can learn the exact same information: how to play the game and what designs did well.

Also keep in mind that aspects of games have already been replayed recently. LogoMotion was similar to Rack 'N Roll when it came to picking up and hanging tubes. Rebound Rumble involved picking up and shooting balls, much like Aim High.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Originally Posted by dellagd

I thought that too, and thats what scares me.

Personally, I think thats pretty lame, because there will be two distinct groups of teams playing in such a scenario.

Those who played the game once ago, and those who didnt. Unfair advantage, maybe?

I'm not so sure there would be an unfair advantage, especially if it were an old game.

Take Maize Craze for example. You could exchange the corn to (something equally obnoxious like) ping pong balls (try driving on those ). Change the balls (for scoring) to bean bags (floppies anyone!!!), and maybe a few other tweaks .....

A game we all know (hence the rick-roll hint) but not giving any advantage. ***for that matter, Maize Craze would support the 4 thumbtacks (4 robots/teams) as well ***

[279 EMPIE]

Is there a second game hint out yet???

[dellagd]

Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur

I'm not so sure there would be an unfair advantage, especially if it were an old game.

Take Maize Craze for example. You could exchange the corn to (something equally obnoxious like) ping pong balls (try driving on those ). Change the balls (for scoring) to bean bags (floppies anyone!!!), and maybe a few other tweaks .....

A game we all know (hence the rick-roll hint) but not giving any advantage. ***for that matter, Maize Craze would support the 4 thumbtacks (4 robots/teams) as well ***

Sure, totally agree. I was referring to a COMPLETE repeat, or a near complete one. Like Rack 'n Roll vs. Logomotion is fine.

I am just saying that if they we to repeat something really close, like for say, Overdrive, teams with mentors that played through that whole season + offseason event would have a pretty good idea what mechanisms work and what dont, and how to build them. Heck, they might even still have the robot in their shop.

I dont know, independent of the team age thing, it just seems like a bit of a cop out for the GDC to me as well.

Also keep in mind that aspects of games have already been replayed recently. LogoMotion was similar to Rack 'N Roll when it came to picking up and hanging tubes. Rebound Rumble involved picking up and shooting balls, much like Aim High.

I mean sure, you could say that using the same carpet on the field lets teams use pretty much the same drive train, or same set, every year, but the lower you get the 'complexity' of the game, the harder things are to change year to year. I completely get the re-use of game pieces.

[LMD3130]

I think I found something big for this years game hint (a lot of research), Rick Astley was born on February 6th, 1966 (his picture was the game hint), on this same day in 1892 a man (Scientist/Doctor) named William P. Murphy was born, he died in the year 1987, 1987 is the year Rick Astley's song Never Gonna Give You Up came out (the Picture for the hint is from this song, and it was his biggest hit), William P. Murphy's son William P. Murphy Jr. had worked with Dean Kamen (that's right our founder) in founding FRC robotics (he was a co-founder in this and many other programs). Now keep in mind this game may have something involving and Up/Down motion because of the song. Also the pins placement/colors may be a hint, there are 2 red 1 yellow and 1 blue. Something else to keep in mind is that Rick Astley is still Alive, and preforming music, and he may do something that relates to the game (his site: www.rickastley.co.uk).

GameHint
http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default...Game%20Lab.jpg

William P. Murphy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_P._Murphy
http://www.nndb.com/people/287/000127903/

William P.Murphy Jr.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_P._Murphy_Jr.

Rick Astley
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Astley
http://www.rickastley.co.uk/biography/

Dean Kamen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Kamen

[dcarr]

Originally Posted by LMD3130

I think I found something big for this years game hint (a lot of research), Rick Astley was born on February 6th, 1966 (his picture was the game hint), on this same day in 1892 a man (Scientist/Doctor) named William P. Murphy was born, he died in the year 1987, 1987 is the year Rick Astley's song Never Gonna Give You Up came out (the Picture for the hint is from this song, and it was his biggest hit), William P. Murphy's son William P. Murphy Jr. had worked with Dean Kamen (that's right our founder) in founding FRC robotics (he was a co-founder in this and many other programs). Now keep in mind this game may have something involving and Up/Down motion because of the song. Also the pins placement/colors may be a hint, there are 2 red 1 yellow and 1 blue. Something else to keep in mind is that Rick Astley is still Alive, and preforming music, and he may do something that relates to the game (his site: www.rickastley.co.uk).

Certainly more to the Rick Roll than meets the eye!

First will.i.am, then Rick Astley? Hey, stranger things could happen.

[J.Warsoff]

Dancing robots?

[Bob Steele]

Originally Posted by ksafin

Alright lets work through this. Never going to give you up was a music video that appeared in 1986, the same year that Denmark won their first gold medal in the summer Olympics in the javelin throw. Javelins were first used by the romans to counteract their opponents calvary. The term "cavalry" originates from the dinosaur "cavelirous ursa". So the only logical thing the game could be is.. Robot dinosaur battle.

Genius!!

i would never have made this connection...
We are going to stock up on Dinosaur parts and possibly Danish Javelins...
( I think Walmart just dropped those items from their online store though...
this, in itself, is a hint....

Cavelirous ursa... the bear like dinosaur....


In truth, scouring the large box, sporting goods and toy stores for items that they are discontinuing after Christmas is a reasonable approach to finding out what the gamepiece may be....

I'll get on that right away....

[279 EMPIE]

Wal-mart season, only can use parts u can get from Wal-mart. Besides the first provided electronics. this would be awesome

[JohnFogarty]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that FIRST for the past 3 years has used the color yellow to signify the END GAME portion up on the game clock on the screen at FTC and FRC regionals alike.

[Littleboy]

All pins are equivaillent to 40 seconds
Red - Teleoperated
Blue - Auton/Hybrid
Yellow - Endgame
This will
Teleoperated 1 - first 40 seconds
Auton/Hybird - next 40 seconds
Teleoperated 2 - next 40 seconds
End Game - final 40 seconds

That would encourage Kinect use because you probably won't start exactly like you need to.

[synth3tk]

Originally Posted by John_1102

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that FIRST for the past 3 years has used the color yellow to signify the END GAME portion up on the game clock on the screen at FTC and FRC regionals alike.

That, along with the fact that the screenshot is from the 3:00 mark exactly, might actually bear some weight.

[Chris is me]

Fun fact about the "repeated game" theory: At FRC Live this year, Bill Miller said that if they didn't make a 2013 game in time, they would just play Aim High again. He also said that they did manage to make a new 2013 game, so that wasn't going to happen. That's probably good, as two shooting games in a row wouldn't be fantastic.

I don't think a replay of an old game would be that bad. The best games seem to be at least a little rehashed.