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Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8

Has anyone had any success installing workbench 3.3 on windows 8? I went ahead and installed labview tools workbench 2012 disks 1 and 2 and all the recommended updates but workbench is not properly installed, there is no shortcut to workbench 3.3 and following directory:

"C:\Windriver\workbench-3.3\wrwb\platform"

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Re: Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8

Hi,

I have tried to install on Win 8, but the installer stalled at random points on the first disc of WRWB. I have since downgraded to Win 7 because of this and general dislike for the OS. If you wanted to get it working in Win 8, you could try virtualizing Win XP or Win 7 on Virtualbox or VMware Player, and install WRWB on that.

Hope this helps!
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Re: Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8

thanks ill give it a shot
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Re: Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8

I've been running Windows 8 since the Developer Preview in July of last year, but the first time I tried to install it was on the Consumer Preview at a FIRST competition. When that happened I encountered an error which doesn't allow VxWorks to install (More specifically, the installation item "VxWorks 6.3 and General Purpose Technologies").

It tries to execute bspinstall.bat at the end of the install for that item, which ends up essentially hanging the installation. It's still responsive, but waiting for a callback from a batch file that won't come.

The reason?
Here's the status message :
Attempting to exec C:\WindRiver/setup/bspinstall.bat

Uh, I'm pretty sure that file path won't work. And it doesn't. Installation is just as broken on Windows 8 RTM as it was in the preview versions. Regardless of whether or not public opinion sides with the new Modern UI interface, it is the next version of Windows and that means that people are going to be using it. Will we have to wait for the next version in the KOP before these issues are addressed?
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Re: Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8

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Will we have to wait for the next version in the KOP before these issues are addressed?
2014 KOP. http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr.../blog-10-23-12
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Re: Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8

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2014!?!

I understand that Windows 7 is the enterprise favorite right now (Well, actually it's the best selling operating system ever) but it's also a generation old. To not support the latest version of an OS that controls 85% of the PC market until more than a year after launch is ridiculous.

Not only that, they don't issue a Linux or Mac version. That limits their userbase to people using Windows PCs (or virtualizing) running an OS that's at least three years old.

Pretty poor, WindRiver.
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Re: Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8

I also attempted installing Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8. I also ran into the stalled installation issues a few times -- the installation seemed to pause on several of the post-installation .bat files. I was able to get past these by entering the task manager and ending the tcl process that the .bat files seemed to spawn, and successfully installed the rest of WindRiver.

I haven't had the chance to confirm that WindRiver and the rest of the FRC tools can successfully compile, transfer, and run the code, however.
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Re: Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8

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I was able to get past these by entering the task manager and ending the tcl process that the .bat files seemed to spawn, and successfully installed the rest of WindRiver.
I did the same thing that you did and I have yet to run into any problems. The only problem I had was with one bat file, bspinstall.bat. But after killing the process everything seemed to run fine. Oddly enough, if you try to install again you won't run into that problem and it says that the installing that hung is installed.
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I haven't had the chance to confirm that WindRiver and the rest of the FRC tools can successfully compile, transfer, and run the code, however.
Progress check a month later -- I've successfully used WindRiver to compile and deploy code to the robot from my Windows 8 laptop. Apart from the hanging processes during installation, I haven't noticed any issues.
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Re: Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8

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I've been running Windows 8 since the Developer Preview in July of last year, but the first time I tried to install it was on the Consumer Preview at a FIRST competition. When that happened I encountered an error which doesn't allow VxWorks to install (More specifically, the installation item "VxWorks 6.3 and General Purpose Technologies").

It tries to execute bspinstall.bat at the end of the install for that item, which ends up essentially hanging the installation. It's still responsive, but waiting for a callback from a batch file that won't come.

The reason?
Here's the status message :
Attempting to exec C:\WindRiver/setup/bspinstall.bat

Uh, I'm pretty sure that file path won't work. And it doesn't. Installation is just as broken on Windows 8 RTM as it was in the preview versions. Regardless of whether or not public opinion sides with the new Modern UI interface, it is the next version of Windows and that means that people are going to be using it. Will we have to wait for the next version in the KOP before these issues are addressed?

We've seen this same hang "Attempting to exec C:\WindRiver/setup/bspinstall.bat" on two separate Windows 8 machines today, does anyone have any thoughts ? We've been successful on a different Windows machine though...
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Re: Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8

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I also attempted installing Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8. I also ran into the stalled installation issues a few times -- the installation seemed to pause on several of the post-installation .bat files. I was able to get past these by entering the task manager and ending the tcl process that the .bat files seemed to spawn, and successfully installed the rest of WindRiver.

I haven't had the chance to confirm that WindRiver and the rest of the FRC tools can successfully compile, transfer, and run the code, however.
Thank you so much! I was stalling at one of the .bat files, too.

Edit: This is on a 64-bit Windows 7 Machine (I have Cygwin already installed on it... if that somehow makes a difference with command line stuff)
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Re: Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8

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I also attempted installing Workbench 3.3 on Windows 8. I also ran into the stalled installation issues a few times -- the installation seemed to pause on several of the post-installation .bat files. I was able to get past these by entering the task manager and ending the tcl process that the .bat files seemed to spawn, and successfully installed the rest of WindRiver.

I haven't had the chance to confirm that WindRiver and the rest of the FRC tools can successfully compile, transfer, and run the code, however.
This solution works perfectly.

Guide:
Install WRWB 3.0, then 3.3
During the installation of 3.3 (CD2), the installation will hang at the bspinstall.bat file.

Open task manager, and end the task tcpcl.exe (I think that's what it's called. There may be more than one instance running.)

The installation will then proceed as normal.

Install the WRWB C++ 2013 Update.

Open WRWB, build your code, deploy to the robot.
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