2013 Game Hint!

[Michael Hill]

"You know the rules and so do I"

We're replaying last year's game!

[coalhot]

Just wanted to float this really old video out there to answer everyone's questions about next year's game. Even though it was about the 2002 season, it still holds some merit. Pay attention to Dean and Woodie at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-ua5iYUI6A

[Bill_B]

Hint or not, if you want to guess what the next year's game in one FIRST program, it will serve you well to look at what the other challenges in other years have contained. Last year FRC had balancing on bridges. The year before that FTC had (wait for it) balancing on bridges. This year FLL has, yep you guessed it, balancing on a "bridge" or at least a tippy platform.

Last year FTC had a flock of little balls, a couple of bowling balls, and some crates to stack. How much of that makes it to the 2013 FRC game remains to be seen. In the light of all the analyses that mention rolling, never giving UP and knowing the game, etc., it would seem that ignoring the other programs' games will leave out too many possibilities.

This year's FTC challenge has rings on pegs and lifting the alliance robot off the mat in the end game. Sound familiar?

Oh, about the third alliance idea? Hate, hate, hate the prospect! Irrespective of having a crowded field, anyone else itching to make a third set of colored bumpers? That's the payoff for inventing faster ways to change them? Thanks, but no thanks, GDC!

[dellagd]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

Fun fact about the "repeated game" theory: At FRC Live this year, Bill Miller said that if they didn't make a 2013 game in time, they would just play Aim High again. He also said that they did manage to make a new 2013 game, so that wasn't going to happen. That's probably good, as two shooting games in a row wouldn't be fantastic.

I don't think a replay of an old game would be that bad. The best games seem to be at least a little rehashed.

I thought he said that if they didnt make a new 2012 game they would replay aim high.

[JohnFogarty]

Yeah, that's what he said. ^
There was no reference to aim high for 2013.

[jwallace15]

Originally Posted by stevend1994

Hardcore Robotics Pick-Up Sticks.

This is from the first page of this thread.

Have you ever seen those boats that tow logs near logging camps? Like these:



Sticky = sticks, which come off of logs.

Originally Posted by BigJ

Another anagram is "Cry, it's lake!" WATER GAME.

Maybe lake as in water game?
Robots are boats that have to drag logs into their zones. These logs will gather X amount of points. More advanced robots can pick up the logs and move them to conveyors along the perimeter of the field. These are worth Y amount of points. There could be platforms (6 for 6 robots) around the outside of the field. The robots would have to pick themselves out of the water and move onto these platforms.

There's my crazy idea

[Jacob.B]

And I thought Truck Town was crazy before James joined...

[Siri]

Originally Posted by jwallace15

There's my crazy idea

I think the word you're looking for is terrifying.

[CrazyHorse]

Originally Posted by ksafin

Alright lets work through this. Never going to give you up was a music video that appeared in 1986, the same year that Denmark won their first gold medal in the summer Olympics in the javelin throw. Javelins were first used by the romans to counteract their opponents calvary. The term "cavalry" originates from the dinosaur "cavelirous ursa". So the only logical thing the game could be is.. Robot dinosaur battle.

Made my day.

[Elong451]

Originally Posted by ksafin

Alright lets work through this. Never going to give you up was a music video that appeared in 1986, the same year that Denmark won their first gold medal in the summer Olympics in the javelin throw. Javelins were first used by the romans to counteract their opponents calvary. The term "cavalry" originates from the dinosaur "cavelirous ursa". So the only logical thing the game could be is.. Robot dinosaur battle.

Oh god rotfl.

Seriously though. There is a guy in one of my classes that says "Water game" like it's a thing but he has no idea about robotics. It's creeping me out.

[Woolly]

Hm... pins... rolling... Rick Astley...
Bowling?

Or potentially, since a rick is a stack of some sort of crop plant, it could be a game about stacking something (tetra or Rubbermaid tote anyone?), and potentially knocking it over with what I would presume would be a type of ball.

[mwmac]

Originally Posted by Woolly

Hm... pins... rolling... Rick Astley...
Bowling?

Or potentially, since a rick is a stack of some sort of crop plant, it could be a game about stacking something (tetra or Rubbermaid tote anyone?), and potentially knocking it over with what I would presume would be a type of ball.

Could be, check out last year's FTC game animation http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...easons-archive , its got bowling, knocking things over and stacking....hmmm

[Shifter]

Three minute match duration per Rick Astley still photo.
At the centerline of the field there are eight duelling tree targets (something like this: http://www.kisstactical.com/catalog_...oduct_id=11725). On every tree each of the eight individual targets has a different color on opposing sides (red, blue, yellow).
Prior to the match, the red alliance secretly pre-stages colors on targets on four of the eight trees (north side of the field). Blue does the same for the four other trees (south side). Alliances can divulge the target color pattern to the opposing alliance prior to the match or not (aka rick-roll).
The hybrid portion of the match starts when the tarp (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1192364) is pulled back revealing the trees and target color combinations.
Two of the three alliance partner robots begin the match tethered together (explains the reference to a number of "couplers" in FIRST Choice).
During the 45 second hybrid mode, robots attempt to create columns of targets facing them that match their alliance's color (like the game Connect Four) by selectively shooting targets on the trees. Less advanced teams use the IR remote while more advanced teams use the Kinect to steer, detect color and aim.
A sub-total score is captured automatically at the end of hybrid.
Similar play continues in tele-op.
At the end of the match, Connect Four type scores are tallied. Alliances get bonus points for maintaining their two-robot tether (www.andymark.com/FIRST-Choice-p/fc13-009.htm) throughout the entire match. Extra bonus points are awarded to both alliances if, at the end buzzer, one robot from the red alliance is tethered to one robot from the blue alliance.

Either that or a robot tug of war.

[Gregor]

This year's FLL game also has a bowling mission.

[dellagd]

Originally Posted by Woolly

Hm... pins... rolling... Rick Astley...
Bowling?

Or potentially, since a rick is a stack of some sort of crop plant, it could be a game about stacking something (tetra or Rubbermaid tote anyone?), and potentially knocking it over with what I would presume would be a type of ball.

I dont think anyone said this before, and very interesting. I think that piece of evidence is worth more than anything we've had or a stacking game so far. It also sounds like something the GDC would do. They're smart people, Im sure one of them knew what a "rick" was.

Then again, they could not have and it could be a coincidence (I'd like to think it isnt though ).