Corporate Campus Sponsored Teams.

[Tom Line]

Originally Posted by xitaqua

Hello All,

Thanks for all the comments.

From the previous postings, I gathered the following team build on corporate campuses :

Team #1718 (The Fighting Pi) Ford Plant
Team#0365 (MOE) Dupont
Team#XXX (Wildstang) Motorola
Team#1714 (More Robotics) American Acrylics

And the PRO/CONS might be summarized as follows :

PRO
- Better access to Industry Mentors.
- Less “site closing” due to weather or “school day off”.
- Access to tools / facility and materials.

CON
- Access to students to site. (eg. Transportation, site security process)
- Student may not be able to use tool himself/herself due to liability.
- Company Policies / Union Policies may limit “build process”.
- Availability after business hours (5PM>). School maybe out 3 hours earlier.


Let me know what you guys think !.

Cheers,
Marcos.

To elaborate more regarding 1718: students are allowed to use the teams tools: drill press, band saw, grinders, drills, etc. They are not allowed to use any of the Ford-Specific items like Mills, Lathes, and CNC's.

There are some other pros. Our work space is never closed. Even in bad weather, our team still meets. If we need an emergency part made, we CAN get it done in a pinch.

There are definite cons too though. Especially in a larger company, you'll run into people working there and even managers who, for no good reason, don't really want you there. They can cause all sorts of headaches. At a school, you usually don't see as much of that.

All in all, I would stay in the plant given a choice. The full size field is a huge plus, and always being able to work (even all nighters since we're a three shift plant) has been very beneficial.

[MARS_James]

At the space we had for 2011 was attached to a building shared by GE and Florida Turbine Technologies. It was a huge space they used for storage and we consolidated all of their stuff to about 1/4 of the room. Our biggest issue was that their was no restroom in our suite so when we had to use it our teacher sponsor had to get a group around the building slide a security key and then everyone could walk in. Though we had one issue near the very end where a door we thought was locked from both sides wasn't and FTT employees had been walking into our space while we weren't there and touching and moving our things, though the FTT gremlins did see the schematics for one of our parts and tweaked it and fabricated it for us so not all bad.

[MysterE]

I know that this is not along the same lines at all - but I do want to offer a suggestion for those teams who look at us who build outside of our school with a bit of jealousy:

One type of Sponsor to consider is a realtor. We have build for the last two years in a shopping center, in an unrented building. The real estate company provides the power and water and we get keys to the site. When build season is over, we pack up and leave the place open.

The reason this works for us is that it gives us 100% freedom to come and go when we please. The only fallback is transportation for students and our location is generally close enough to the school to mitigate this.

We make it a point each year of having a build-site group that cleans up the space entirely. We fix broken roofing tiles, paint walls that are grungy, pull up old carpet if the realtor asks - we basically remodel the place. So far, each site (both of which were unrented for about a year before us) found renters that moved in the day after we left.

Originality in Sponsorship can get you a lot of places.

[Madison]

We meet on Microsoft's campus in Redmond, WA.

As others have mentioned, there are pros and cons to this, though we feel the pros far outweight the cons and so we're very happy with the arrangement we have.

The good:
-- We have a fantastic group of mentors that attend most of the team meetings because they are already on campus and can come by after work with little difficulty. A giant lake separates Seattle from "the east side" and is crossed by only two very busy highways. If we were to ask our mentors to come to our home school, it might take them 90+ minutes to make that trip. The reverse commute is much faster.

-- During build season, our use of the tools and machines in the shop in our building is prioritized over the work of others. We get away with this because it's a prototyping lab, because two of our mentors are in charge of that lab and because few people actually use it regularly.

-- We have lots of space for work -- many conference rooms, a kitchen, a large atrium, and a pretty big work area in the shop. We don't have loads of storage on site, though.

-- We can work whenever we'd like outside of normal business hours; and even then, sometimes we can work with a smaller group during normal business hours if it's important that we do so. We do have to make sure we have an escort in the building with us, but we have loads of people who're willing to take that on for us; even folks that don't regularly work with the team but have an office in our building will vouch for us if nobody else can make it.

The bad:
-- We have to bring the entire team to the work site every day we meet. Most of our students live in a city and rely on public transit, so they don't have cars. Additionally, they often won't get home until 10pm or later, so we drive each of them directly to their homes. Some of our mentors will drive 75+ miles every day we have a meeting.

-- We have to feed everyone when we meet on weeknights. We're a big group, so the cost of food isn't insignificant, but keeping everyone in the building and assuring the mentors that they'll get something to eat helps make coming to meetings pleasant and productive.

-- We have to be invisible to regular workers; so we always have to clean up after ourselves and then some. It's a good practice, though, so it's not that much of an issue.

Our experience pretty closely echoes that of others. We don't have any professional machinists in our building, though, so we're on our own with all of the tools.