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Unread 01-12-2012, 23:02
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Re: pic: How many balls are in Team 68's robot?

The question is not how many balls are in 68's robot.

The REAL question is, how many of the balls in the robot can they score in one go, and for how many points? (And if you try to tell me that all of them are 3's, I'm going to say that you're bluffing--the wheel can't get up to speed quite that fast without spitting at least a couple for ones and twos, unless they can reverse it for a bit.)
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Re: pic: How many balls are in Team 68's robot?

That depends on where they are shooting from and how much, if any, defense is being played.
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Re: pic: How many balls are in Team 68's robot?

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That depends on where they are shooting from and how much, if any, defense is being played.
Assume they can shoot from anywhere they can normally shoot with no defense.
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Re: pic: How many balls are in Team 68's robot?

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The question is not how many balls are in 68's robot.

The REAL question is, how many of the balls in the robot can they score in one go, and for how many points? (And if you try to tell me that all of them are 3's, I'm going to say that you're bluffing--the wheel can't get up to speed quite that fast without spitting at least a couple for ones and twos, unless they can reverse it for a bit.)
Well, since you asked,
  • <start at the fender>
  • The first one will fall out with some shaking, so maybe 1 pt
  • If we tap the last ball gently out towards the key and run the rollers backwards to smash the fifth through eighth balls into the ground, we can probably get the 4th ball out of the shooter. The second and third balls could then pop out, with maybe enough force for 2 2pts
  • This is the tricky part. We'd have to turn off the shooter, and stack the remaining four balls just right (the robot was designed to not carry four in the tower)
  • <drive forward (farther away) to key, with robot centered directly over front edge of key>
  • Shoot one ball for 3 pts
  • <drive backward (closer) on key, leaving robot ~1/4th of the way on the key>
  • Shoot four balls for 4 3pts
  • <Retrieve final ball from somewhere between key and coop bridge, return to previous spot>
  • Shoot one ball for 3 pts

So there you have it. I counted 23 out of a possible 27 points, if all the shots go in.

Yes there are nine balls.

The fourth shot will go farther than the next four because putting four balls in compresses them together; decompressing the first ball in that stack would cause it to jump out a little.
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Re: pic: How many balls are in Team 68's robot?

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id say 8 but wow imagine if there was no limit on the number of balls you could hold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7fep3iJ5e8
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Re: pic: How many balls are in Team 68's robot?

3 times the amount you should have.
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Re: pic: How many balls are in Team 68's robot?

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3 times the amount you should have.
What if there are really only three balls in the robot but they are just moving so fast that it looks like more?
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Re: pic: How many balls are in Team 68's robot?

I am curious as to what 469 can hold. They have that hopper that folds out.
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Re: pic: How many balls are in Team 68's robot?

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I am curious as to what 469 can hold. They have that hopper that folds out.
With the speed that balls go through their system I was amazed the managed to hold on to 3 at one time!
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With the speed that balls go through their system I was amazed the managed to hold on to 3 at one time!
This is the part where I wish I could find video of 469's 2006 robot shooting in autonomous.
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This is the part where I wish I could find video of 469's 2006 robot shooting in autonomous.
I believe This is a video of it. I remember seeing them in Atlanta.

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I believe This is a video of it. I remember seeing them in Atlanta.

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...they made a robot that shoots faster than it does this year? o.0 That is frightening. Can't imagine competing against it.
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Re: pic: How many balls are in Team 68's robot?

9 balls. 4 in their shooter and 5 in harvester.
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25-30 according to 469 team members.
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...they made a robot that shoots faster than it does this year? o.0 That is frightening. Can't imagine competing against it.
That first few seconds, where they just score all those balls straight off the bat...

This robot-stuffing reminds me of competing at the MN State Fair-- since there isn't enough room for a full field, we have a variety of different game-related challenges to compete in. One of those was a force-of-impact test. I would have loved to see some of these robots try that (for the record, I believe 1816 won that-- their dual-CIM shooter broke the measuring apparatus if I remember correctly).
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