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1114 Transcription Sample Video

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So I've made a five minute sample of a section transcribed from 1114's Strategy Video. Please take a look and comment on the size and positioning of the captions. This is my first time doing this so it may take some tweaking.

http://youtu.be/hgSH_4NCFFU

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Re: 1114 Transcription Sample Video

Would it to possible to speed up the transition between lines? In may cases in the first 2 minutes of the posted video Karthik has already said the next whole line before it appears on screen. I think it would be best to have the lines on the screen before they are said in general, rather than said then get the listing.
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Re: 1114 Transcription Sample Video

Have you considered using YouTube's tool? It might actually end up being less work than having to copy & paste tons of lines into your video editor.

It could even be added to the original YouTube upload, minimizing confusion and allowing it to be toggled on or off.

http://support.google.com/youtube/bi...&guide=2734661
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So I've made a five minute sample of a section transcribed from 1114's Strategy Video. Please take a look and comment on the size and positioning of the captions. This is my first time doing this so it may take some tweaking.
This is *very* helpful. Thank you for doing this.

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Would it to possible to speed up the transition between lines? In may cases in the first 2 minutes of the posted video Karthik has already said the next whole line before it appears on screen. I think it would be best to have the lines on the screen before they are said in general, rather than said then get the listing.
Ditto what Patrick said. A person reading subtitles is typically reading them slightly before the speaker says them. So it's better to have them on the screen before he says them.

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Re: 1114 Transcription Sample Video

Yeah -

I realized when I was watching that some lines were a bit off. I didn't want to use YouTube's editor because it is very difficult to move through. For example - in the program I am using I can jump from caption to caption within the video itself as well as slight forwards and backwards movements.

I will work on aligning the values a bit more. I will also move everything up a bit so the Youtube bottom bar doesn't cut it off.

Still looking for a few transcribers. Feel free to signup at http://tinyurl.com/1114trans
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Have you considered using YouTube's tool? It might actually end up being less work than having to copy & paste tons of lines into your video editor.

It could even be added to the original YouTube upload, minimizing confusion and allowing it to be toggled on or off.

http://support.google.com/youtube/bi...&guide=2734661
Oh - and the program I use creates the subtitle file - I then use a script to create them on Vegas Video. So the process is actually much smoother than using Youtube in the end.
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Oh - and the program I use creates the subtitle file - I then use a script to create them on Vegas Video. So the process is actually much smoother than using Youtube in the end.
That sounds perfect then.

I'll try to grab a slot this weekend, good break from studying for finals
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Re: 1114 Transcription Sample Video

Something I think you need to take into account, after seeing that you hosted that clip on your own YouTube Channel:

You should DEFINITELY ASK 1114 if it's okay to re-host their entire presentation. After all, it's their media, their presentation, and they reserve the right to control all the outlets it's posted on.

Sending them the transcript/subtitled version is one thing, rehosting something they worked crazy hard on, therefore drawing the attention away from their channel is another.
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Something I think you need to take into account, after seeing that you hosted that clip on your own YouTube Channel:

You should DEFINITELY ASK 1114 if it's okay to re-host their entire presentation. After all, it's their media, their presentation, and they reserve the right to control all the outlets it's posted on.

Sending them the transcript/subtitled version is one thing, rehosting something they worked crazy hard on, therefore drawing the attention away from their channel is another.
This was actually part of my reasoning for letting 1114 upload the transcription file to the existing YouTube video.

Either way, perhaps 1114 can post the final captioned version on their YouTube (just Dropbox it or something) that way they can keep the attention and view count on their channel.
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Re: 1114 Transcription Sample Video

I think it's perfectly fine to transcribe this and that you've done a fantastic job. Thank you for taking so much time out of your day to make this information accessible to others. Nowhere has it been said that the entire thing would be uploaded to another person's youtube channel, and someone in another thread has already asked 1114 if they had the original file and upon hearing no response we started transcribing. I'm sure most people would be totally fine with this being uploaded onto 1114's channel if that's what the team wants. Just as I'm sure 1114 would allow this to be uploaded to the website that hosts past presentations from the conferences, after all this was a presentation at Championships.

Before we start accusing people of stealing other's intellectual property and getting all upset let's keep in our minds the big picture of helping everyone be able to understand it's message. It's much like how international teams transcribe and translate the game video every year. It's not that they are trying to steal views away from FIRST, they are just trying to make the information available to those who may have problems hearing and understanding the original message.
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Re: 1114 Transcription Sample Video

Yeah,

My plan was just to release the samples to tweak. The final video and transcription file will go to 1114.
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I think it's perfectly fine to transcribe this and that you've done a fantastic job. Thank you for taking so much time out of your day to make this information accessible to others. Nowhere has it been said that the entire thing would be uploaded to another person's youtube channel, and someone in another thread has already asked 1114 if they had the original file and upon hearing no response we started transcribing. I'm sure most people would be totally fine with this being uploaded onto 1114's channel if that's what the team wants. Just as I'm sure 1114 would allow this to be uploaded to the website that hosts past presentations from the conferences, after all this was a presentation at Championships.

Before we start accusing people of stealing other's intellectual property and getting all upset let's keep in our minds the big picture of helping everyone be able to understand it's message. It's much like how international teams transcribe and translate the game video every year. It's not that they are trying to steal views away from FIRST, they are just trying to make the information available to those who may have problems hearing and understanding the original message.
I wasn't accusing anyone, merely making a suggestion. I certainly hope I didn't come across that way. I absolutely understand the need to make this available to people; my father was mostly deaf, so my family's big on subtitles. I just wanted to make sure it was being done the right way, that's all.

Good to know that's considered rude, though. I forgot Chief was like this now.

Thank you to all of you who are working hard; sorry if I sounded like I was criticizing. I think it's a really great idea.
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I wasn't accusing anyone, merely making a suggestion. I certainly hope I didn't come across that way. I absolutely understand the need to make this available to people; my father was mostly deaf, so my family's big on subtitles. I just wanted to make sure it was being done the right way, that's all.

Good to know that's considered rude, though. I forgot Chief was like this now.

Thank you to all of you who are working hard; sorry if I sounded like I was criticizing. I think it's a really great idea.
I didn't feel criticized. I'm glad that we at CD choose to follow Gracious Professionalism in all areas of our lives - including material rights and the like. Its the same reason that I try not to let students use non open-source music on any of our media that we create. Thanks for thinking about 1114s right to be the one to display the content, Libby K. Its important to them I am sure.
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Its the same reason that I try not to let students use non open-source music on any of our media that we create.
Off topic - but if you are uploading said media to YouTube, they will scan it with their Content ID engine and if it contains copyrighted music, the artist will receive ad revenue from the video, and it's completely legal. (this only applies to YouTube and certainly not all scenarios, Chairman's videos in fact are required to not have copyrighted music).
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Yeah, that's why I figure that staying in the habit of using pre-cleared media is a good idea. Besides, you can get some amazing stock stuff for cheap...especially if you find the sites that sell CDs of materials on sale.
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