2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!

[pandamonium]

Karomata came up with a concept that hasn't been discussed ceiling

This is the hint:

31 88274153, 622341415326

412383975388 9788533197

31 262383835388, 332341415326

93276426238397 995323979397

Which somebody was able to turn into this:

A ROSE, KISSED
SINGER GREAT
A DINNER, MISSED
HOLDING WEIGHT

Now, from that we have been able to deduce that the first 2 lines refer to a song by Seal, and so while thinking about that, I thought about the different plays on words with seal. I kept going through words like seal-ed, seal-proof, seal-ling. Then using ceiling,

weighs being held from the ceiling that robots have to STAND UP to get

[DampRobot]

Usually I don't post on this type of thread, but, well, here goes nothing.

Three is the recurring number. No one denies that. (I especially like the 12/21/12 release date clue.) I think we can safely say that there will not be three alliances, as indicated from the bumper material,the difficulty setting up the field and creating eliminations, etc.

Aren't we missing something huge? I haven't read every single post on this thread, but I don't thing anyone's mentioned yet the possibility that we could be doing a replay of Triple Play.

Here's why it makes sense.

One, the hints consistently point to three. Tetras, three by three scoring grid, three robots per alliance for the first time, etc were all features of 2005. 'Nuff said.

Two, we haven't had an "arm game" (or what most people would consider an "arm game") in a year. The GDC likes to mix it up, and since 2005 (what many would consider the beginning of the modern FRC era) arm games have frequently followed shooter games, like 2007 and 2006, or 2011 and 2012. I guess they don't want us to be able to refine one design for too many years in a row (at least in terms of the manipulator). 2005 was an arm game, and the time is ripe for an arm game in 2013.

Three, it follows the much-debated recent pattern of "going one year back." 2011 "copied" 2007, and 2012 copied 2006, which leads me to suspect that the 2013 game will be similar to the 2005 game.

Other ideas, like changing match length, schedule, or frame size seem a little too speculative for me to comment on. I'll only venture that the GDC has a tenancy to stick to what works.

So, here's what I'm thinking for the 2013 game: the return of 2005. Probably a 3x3 scoring grid, possibly tetras and certainly a 3 robot alliance (although that shouldn't surprise anyone).

[CrazyHorse]

Originally Posted by DampRobot

Three is the recurring number. No one denies that. (I especially like the 12/21/12 release date clue.) I think we can safely say that there will not be three alliances, as indicated from the bumper material,the difficulty setting up the field and creating eliminations, etc
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Two, we haven't had an "arm game" (or what most people would consider an "arm game") in a year. The GDC likes to mix it up, and since 2005 (what many would consider the beginning of the modern FRC era) arm games have frequently followed shooter games, like 2007 and 2006, or 2011 and 2012. I guess they don't want us to be able to refine one design for too many years in a row (at least in terms of the manipulator). 2005 was an arm game, and the time is ripe for an arm game in 2013.
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So, here's what I'm thinking for the 2013 game: the return of 2005. Probably a 3x3 scoring grid, possibly tetras and certainly a 3 robot alliance (although that shouldn't surprise anyone).

Well, a few things. The only thing that I see stopping the three alliances is the elim schedule. (See my above post about bumpers and field).
Secondly, 2011 was an arm game, with a scoring grid (Logomotion). The GDC wouldn't recycle a game that they did a year ago.

[Zeromonkey]

Someone mentioned this a little earlier, but no one really jumped on it or said anything about it. Everyone is looking at the number 3 and thinking "Three Alliances" and "Three distinctive parts of the game" and "Three Minute Games". Although I do agree with some of these, what about three different game pieces in the game? In Rebound Rumble's Kickoff video, they threw game pieces from past years across the theme and I know my team members were thinking it was going to be a mix of different games. What if they did that this year? Something to ponder...

Also everyone is thinking water game. With actual water. What if it was just water themed? We have determined the hint refers to Seal and have found other references to water, what if it is just water themed?

Going back to what I said earlier, maybe the game pieces are a "Log" (a large cylindrical piece) a "Coconut" (a ball) and an intertube/ beach ball. This would definitely be an interesting game and different for teams to work with different weights and sizes of game pieces.

Just some ideas to think about.

[gabrielau23]

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Well, a few things. The only thing that I see stopping the three alliances is the elim schedule. (See my above post about bumpers and field).
Secondly, 2011 was an arm game, with a scoring grid (Logomotion). The GDC wouldn't recycle a game that they did a year ago.

Yeah, they would. I made an excel graph plotting game pieces (misc., tubes, and balls (big or small)), and it I thought we may be due for a tube game. While I may not be right, we could see another arm game. I can't find a way to upload it though.
Here's how I did it. I went back in time to the FIRST website, and categorized each game piece as 1, 2, or 3. Ball = 1, Tube = 2, and Misc. = 3. Connect all the dots. If you slit it down the middle, fold the left side (older) down, and then fold across to the right, it will match up perfectly. The next predicted game piece is a tube. For further proof, in 2009 they used balls. 2010, balls. 2011, tubes. 2012, balls. 2008, balls. 2007, tubes. 2006, balls. 2005, misc. So another way of looking at it is that this year we will have a miscellaneous game piece, although you could "technically" consider Lunacy a miscellaneous game piece.

[JB987]

Originally Posted by DampRobot

Usually I don't post on this type of thread, but, well, here goes nothing.

Three is the recurring number. No one denies that. (I especially like the 12/21/12 release date clue.) I think we can safely say that there will not be three alliances, as indicated from the bumper material,the difficulty setting up the field and creating eliminations, etc.

Aren't we missing something huge? I haven't read every single post on this thread, but I don't thing anyone's mentioned yet the possibility that we could be doing a replay of Triple Play.

Here's why it makes sense.

One, the hints consistently point to three. Tetras, three by three scoring grid, three robots per alliance for the first time, etc were all features of 2005. 'Nuff said.

Two, we haven't had an "arm game" (or what most people would consider an "arm game") in a year. The GDC likes to mix it up, and since 2005 (what many would consider the beginning of the modern FRC era) arm games have frequently followed shooter games, like 2007 and 2006, or 2011 and 2012. I guess they don't want us to be able to refine one design for too many years in a row (at least in terms of the manipulator). 2005 was an arm game, and the time is ripe for an arm game in 2013.

Three, it follows the much-debated recent pattern of "going one year back." 2011 "copied" 2007, and 2012 copied 2006, which leads me to suspect that the 2013 game will be similar to the 2005 game.

Other ideas, like changing match length, schedule, or frame size seem a little too speculative for me to comment on. I'll only venture that the GDC has a tenancy to stick to what works.

So, here's what I'm thinking for the 2013 game: the return of 2005. Probably a 3x3 scoring grid, possibly tetras and certainly a 3 robot alliance (although that shouldn't surprise anyone).

Check out my post #267

[nuggetsyl]

Stop worring guys I figured it out, it's aim high with footballs. Of coarse this has been my guess since 07. That and i got video of the playing feild I posted it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl

Stop worring guys I figured it out, it's aim high with footballs. Of coarse this has been my guess since 07. That and i got video of the playing feild I posted it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

You sir are fired.

[wasayanwer97]

Originally Posted by DampRobot

Usually I don't post on this type of thread, but, well, here goes nothing.

Three is the recurring number. No one denies that. (I especially like the 12/21/12 release date clue.) I think we can safely say that there will not be three alliances, as indicated from the bumper material,the difficulty setting up the field and creating eliminations, etc.

Aren't we missing something huge? I haven't read every single post on this thread, but I don't thing anyone's mentioned yet the possibility that we could be doing a replay of Triple Play.

Here's why it makes sense.

One, the hints consistently point to three. Tetras, three by three scoring grid, three robots per alliance for the first time, etc were all features of 2005. 'Nuff said.

Two, we haven't had an "arm game" (or what most people would consider an "arm game") in a year. The GDC likes to mix it up, and since 2005 (what many would consider the beginning of the modern FRC era) arm games have frequently followed shooter games, like 2007 and 2006, or 2011 and 2012. I guess they don't want us to be able to refine one design for too many years in a row (at least in terms of the manipulator). 2005 was an arm game, and the time is ripe for an arm game in 2013.

Three, it follows the much-debated recent pattern of "going one year back." 2011 "copied" 2007, and 2012 copied 2006, which leads me to suspect that the 2013 game will be similar to the 2005 game.

Other ideas, like changing match length, schedule, or frame size seem a little too speculative for me to comment on. I'll only venture that the GDC has a tenancy to stick to what works.

So, here's what I'm thinking for the 2013 game: the return of 2005. Probably a 3x3 scoring grid, possibly tetras and certainly a 3 robot alliance (although that shouldn't surprise anyone).

I have been thinking the same for a long time now.

In case any of you missed it, the 2005 kit chassis is for sale on VexPro

http://www.vexrobotics.com/vexpro/ch...omponents.html

[1086VEX]

i think most points have been covered at this point. i think the first 2 lines refer to the 3 grammys won by seal to go along with the other 3's in the clue. my guess is that this refers to the game name in same way (triple replay?! with the past 2 years i wouldnt put it past FIRST) or a feature of the game (3 zones or something like that). not much else to get from the 3's.

the holding weight along with the AM 3 motor gearboxes and the "never gonna let you down" of rick astley points toward to a lifting game such as 07.

the one thing that i didnt see touched on much is the "dinner missed". my best guess for that is that there will be multiple end games where choosing to lift may prevent you from doing another, whatever it is (multiplier ball/tetra that only scored during allotted lift time for example). this would balance out lifting and could lead to several strategies where a lifting alliance could be beat by a non lifting alliance. this would definitely be targeted towards the regional level where lifting bots are in short supply making the contest more competitive.

thats my 2 cents
-Alex

[Robo Hamsters]

Originally Posted by wasayanwer97

I have been thinking the same for a long time now.

In case any of you missed it, the 2005 kit chassis is for sale on VexPro

http://www.vexrobotics.com/vexpro/ch...omponents.html

Maybe Triple Play with the Lunacy Surface?

[runneals]

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl

Stop worring guys I figured it out, it's aim high with footballs. Of coarse this has been my guess since 07. That and i got video of the playing feild I posted it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

nice one! You got me :/ Doh!

[IndySam]

Nobody has mentioned that the song was the theme for Batman Forever.

[DMetalKong]

A ROSE, KISSED
SINGER GREAT

I feel like most people agree that this unequivocally refers to 'Seal'. But then what of the second half of the rhyme?

A DINNER, MISSED
HOLDING WEIGHT

What if this does not refer to not a person, but a thing. For example, what type of table does not go to dinner, but still holds weight? Such as a Foosball table, or an end table. Arguably, this is a bit of a stretch, because I am getting nothing from 'Seal Table'. However, I feel like there is some reference missing from the second half that will just click when someone gets it.

[jtechau]

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl

i got video of the playing feild I posted it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

I hope others get the message that I think you're making. It's been my opinion all along that the Rick Astley photo is nothing more than Frank rickrolling the whole FRC community.

Of course, all the wild speculation here just adds to the fun.