2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!

[Bill_B]

Originally Posted by gabrielau23

From talking to people in FTC, it would be a "bad" idea to completely copy the FTC endgame, as apparently people would just build incredibly tall scissor lifts that became a ridiculous source of points. Of course, there were defensive robots that would hold down other bots, but I don't think that FRC could safely do that.

The points were intended to be for stacked crates with balls in them, but a ruling made an elevated crate with contents score too. After that it was lifting without stacking to create the situation you mention.

[coollint]

Well then maybe if the intent was just to be holding the crates on top of your robot (thats what i could see from the video), we are just holding something heavy on top of our robots for points or for the endgame

[Robert Cawthon]

I got about halfway through the replies on this thread and then it hit me. The game piece will be a Nerf football and we need to kick them through a goal post for three (3) points. Now I need to go ahead and read the rest of the posts.

[skimoose]

Originally Posted by billbo911

"A DINNER MISSED, HOLDING WEIGHT"
Quite often dinner is the largest meal of the day. Missing it may mean loosing out on the biggest caloric intake of the day. In the past couple years, the End Game has been a HUGE determining factor in the outcome of a match.
I'm guessing that the End Game this year may not be any different.

Wait you're missing the correct placement of the comma.

"A DINNER, MISSED
HOLDING WEIGHT"

Could "a dinner" be referring to the act of dining, like a Dinner Date? So could this line be referring to "A DATE, MISSED HOLDING WEIGHT"?

What date could be missed?

With the expansion of the competition season, the former Robot Ship Day, now Stop Build Day, is only nine days before Week One competition starts. Could we be seeing an end to Stop Build Day? It's on the FRC schedule still, but that could be a red herring.

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by skimoose

Could we be seeing an end to Stop Build Day? It's on the FRC schedule still, but that could be a red herring.

I'd rather see an end to the withholding allowance!

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

I'd rather see an end to the withholding allowance!

Why? I'm personally a huge fan of the withholding allowance. It allowed our team to do a ton of iteration.

[Dad1279]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

I'd rather see an end to the withholding allowance!

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

Why? I'm personally a huge fan of the withholding allowance. It allowed our team to do a ton of iteration.

I agree. Large witholding really means no stop build date. Teams can either copy more successful robots, or keep developing a practice bot, and carry in whole mechanisms.

Before witholding (and bumpers) robot designs were more varied.

[jspatz1]

Most mentors I know would like to see an end to the withholding allowance. Six weeks is enough time to ask them to donate, without turning it into a 14 week build season. The competition has become somewhat of a copying excercise now rather than an original design competition as it used to be. The withholding was originally started when the new crio-based control system was introduced, to allow teams more time work with it. I've never known what the reasoning is behind continuing it.

[pandamonium]

If we miss school aka diner for weather conditions we have a policy in place this year that allows an adional weight allowance that we can bring sealed after ship date to an event.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by pandamonium

If we miss school aka diner for weather conditions we have a policy in place this year that allows an adional weight allowance that we can bring sealed after ship date to an event.

There has been no indication from FRC HQ on this. Where are you getting your information?

[pandamonium]

Lol I am saying that is my interpretation on the game hint. The hint can be anything

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[Siri]

Originally Posted by jspatz1

The withholding was originally started when the new crio-based control system was introduced, to allow teams more time work with it. I've never known what the reasoning is behind continuing it.

Huh?

<R41 from 2008, R31 in 2007, and R29 in 2006>
Teams may bring a maximum of 25 pounds of custom FABRICATED ITEMS (SPARE PARTS, REPLACEMENT PARTS, and/or UPGRADE PARTS) to each competition event to be used to repair and/or upgrade their ROBOT at the competition site. All other FABRICATED ITEMS to be used on the ROBOT during the competition shall arrive at the competition venue packed in the shipping crate with the ROBOT.

The weight limit has varied somewhat over the years (40lb in '09, 65 in '10, 30lb in '11-12), but it's quite old.

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

Why? I'm personally a huge fan of the withholding allowance. It allowed our team to do a ton of iteration.

As jspatz1 said, it prevents copycatting, but it also gives mentors (and students!) a break. Even if you keep a practice robot, you're not redesigning entire systems for the weeks (and weeks and weeks) between competitions.

I know it sounds weird, but as I get older, I have a harder and harder time working ten-to-fourteen 100+ hour weeks in a row. (The Redhead(tm) also isn't a big fan of the withholding allowance. When I started FIRST, she was only alone for six and a half weeks straight.)

[shreyasjoshihts]

Have you guys seen the FTC Challenge? (I think someone may have mentioned it, but my memory might serve me wrong):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4HU3EJ-Sgc

This challenge, combined with the 3rd clue, makes me wonder if the idea of lifting weighted objects will carry over into the FRC challenge...