2012 CD NFL Pick'em!: Week 17

[Koko Ed]

Last Week of Picks!!!

Saturday, Dec. 22, 2012
Atlanta 31, Detroit 18

Sunday, Dec. 23, 2012
New Orleans 34, Dallas 31
Green Bay 55, Tennessee 7
Indianapolis 20, Kansas City 13
Miami 24, Buffalo 10
San Diego 27, N.Y. Jets 17
Washington 27, Philadelphia 20
Cincinnati 13, Pittsburgh 10
St. Louis 28, Tampa Bay 13
Carolina 17, Oakland 6
New England 23, Jacksonville 16
Minnesota 23, Houston 6
Denver 34, Cleveland 12
Chicago 28, Arizona 13
Baltimore 33, N.Y. Giants 14
Seattle 42, San Francisco 13

STANDINGS:
IndySam 156
Travis Hoffman 153
cgmv123 153
Basel A 150
Alex Cormier 148
Koko Ed 148
Taylor 134
Flak-Bait 130
akoscielski3 122
SarahBeth 38
Cody Burd 21
JosephC 13
George1902 11
stundt1 9
Zuelu562 8

Sunday, Dec. 30, 2012
Tampa Bay at Atlanta, 1pm
N.Y. Jets at Buffalo, 1pm
Baltimore at Cincinnati, 1pm
Chicago at Detroit, 1pm
Jacksonville at Tennessee, 1pm
Houston at Indianapolis, 1pm
Carolina at New Orleans, 1pm
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1pm
Cleveland at Pittsburgh, 1pm
Oakland at San Diego, 4:25pm
Arizona at San Francisco, 4:25pm
St. Louis at Seattle, 4:25pm
Green Bay at Minnesota, 4:25pm
Miami at New England, 4:25pm
Kansas City at Denver, 4:25pm
Dallas at Washington, 8:20pm

[Alex Cormier]

Grr. I would be in the lead by 1 point if I didn't forget that one week...

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

Grr. I would be in the lead by 1 point if I didn't forget that one week...

woulda coulda shoulda...

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

Grr. I would be in the lead by 1 point if I didn't forget that one week...

No you wouldn't, I would have picked much differently if it wasn't only a two horse race.

So take peace that I would have kicked your by at least 4 if I wasn't picking defensively

[Alex Cormier]

Originally Posted by IndySam

No you wouldn't, I would have picked much differently if it wasn't only a two horse race.

So take peace that I would have kicked your by at least 4 if I wasn't picking defensively

mhmm....

yeah, right.

[IndySam]

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

mhmm....

yeah, right.

yes, right.

[cgmv123]

Sunday, Dec. 30, 2012
Tampa Bay at Atlanta, 1pm
N.Y. Jets at Buffalo, 1pm
Baltimore at Cincinnati, 1pm
Chicago at Detroit, 1pm
Jacksonville at Tennessee, 1pm
Houston at Indianapolis, 1pm
Carolina at New Orleans, 1pm
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1pm
Cleveland at Pittsburgh, 1pm
Oakland at San Diego, 4:25pm
Arizona at San Francisco, 4:25pm
St. Louis at Seattle, 4:25pm
Green Bay at Minnesota, 4:25pm
Miami at New England, 4:25pm
Kansas City at Denver, 4:25pm
Dallas at Washington, 8:20pm

[Basel A]

Sunday, Dec. 30, 2012
Tampa Bay at Atlanta, 1pm
N.Y. Jets at Buffalo, 1pm
Baltimore at Cincinnati, 1pm
Chicago at Detroit, 1pm
Jacksonville at Tennessee, 1pm
Houston at Indianapolis, 1pm
Carolina at New Orleans, 1pm
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1pm
Cleveland at Pittsburgh, 1pm
Oakland at San Diego, 4:25pm
Arizona at San Francisco, 4:25pm
St. Louis at Seattle, 4:25pm
Green Bay at Minnesota, 4:25pm
Miami at New England, 4:25pm
Kansas City at Denver, 4:25pm
Dallas at Washington, 8:20pm

Shooting for 2nd place with Home Team Madness

[Travis Hoffman]

Ed - go back to the Week 16 thread. I posted changes before game time, picking Washington and Carolina.

I gained two games last week.

Please amend.

[Koko Ed]

Sunday, Dec. 30, 2012
Tampa Bay at Atlanta, 1pm
N.Y. Jets at Buffalo, 1pm
Baltimore at Cincinnati, 1pm
Chicago at Detroit, 1pm
Jacksonville at Tennessee, 1pm
Houston at Indianapolis, 1pm
Carolina at New Orleans, 1pm
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1pm
Cleveland at Pittsburgh, 1pm
Oakland at San Diego, 4:25pm
Arizona at San Francisco, 4:25pm
St. Louis at Seattle, 4:25pm
Green Bay at Minnesota, 4:25pm
Miami at New England, 4:25pm
Kansas City at Denver, 4:25pm
Dallas at Washington, 8:20pm

[Travis Hoffman]

The total scores for Week 16 STILL need to be modified, but I see that IndySam picked Baltimore instead of the Giants, so the net gain was 1 game last week.

I see a flaw in the pickem system, at least at the very end of the season: people know what others are picking. This permits pickem leaders to merely duplicate the picks of those chasing them, making it very difficult to catch up.

In the future, for the final 2-3 weeks (or all weeks), I ask you to make the submissions blind via PM, like Fantasy FIRST. Do this for at least anyone within 3 games of the lead. Then no one can react to anyone else. You can publish the picks after the fact.

Sunday, Dec. 30, 2012
Tampa Bay at Atlanta, 1pm - Ryan will probably play, like a nerd. If I had Ryan in a Fantasy Football final, he'd sit, no doubt.
N.Y. Jets at Buffalo, 1pm
Baltimore at Cincinnati, 1pm
Chicago at Detroit, 1pm
Jacksonville at Tennessee, 1pm
Houston at Indianapolis, 1pm - Pagano's return is emotional, but on paper, Houston is a vastly superior team. But Indy has won on smoke and mirrors all season, so who knows.
Carolina at New Orleans, 1pm
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1pm
Cleveland at Pittsburgh, 1pm - If the Steelers don't SMOKE the Browns with a 3rd string QB, no TRich, and no secondary, their franchise is truly in shambles.
Oakland at San Diego, 4:25pm
Arizona at San Francisco, 4:25pm
St. Louis at Seattle, 4:25pm
Green Bay at Minnesota, 4:25pm
Miami at New England, 4:25pm
Kansas City at Denver, 4:25pm
Dallas at Washington, 8:20pm - Karthik and I are either celebrating or sinking together.

You see, what is happening right now is, either IndySam is a dork and forgot to submit his picks, or, much more likely, he knows I snookered him last week in changing some of my picks at the last minute in response to his, so he could not react to them by changing his to match them. So he's going to wait until the last minute this week to post, so I cannot repeat the same strategy. But then, I may just switch up what I already posted regardless of what he may or may not post.... :-)

Isn't this fun?

Edit - changes posted....again!

[Alex Cormier]

Sunday, Dec. 30, 2012
Tampa Bay at Atlanta, 1pm
N.Y. Jets at Buffalo, 1pm
Baltimore at Cincinnati, 1pm
Chicago at Detroit, 1pm
Jacksonville at Tennessee, 1pm
Houston at Indianapolis, 1pm
Carolina at New Orleans, 1pm
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1pm
Cleveland at Pittsburgh, 1pm
Oakland at San Diego, 4:25pm
Arizona at San Francisco, 4:25pm
St. Louis at Seattle, 4:25pm
Green Bay at Minnesota, 4:25pm
Miami at New England, 4:25pm
Kansas City at Denver, 4:25pm
Dallas at Washington, 8:20pm

[IndySam]

Sunday, Dec. 30, 2012
Tampa Bay at Atlanta, 1pm
N.Y. Jets at Buffalo, 1pm
Baltimore at Cincinnati, 1pm
Chicago at Detroit, 1pm
Jacksonville at Tennessee, 1pm
Houston at Indianapolis, 1pm
Carolina at New Orleans, 1pm
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1pm
Cleveland at Pittsburgh, 1pm
Oakland at San Diego, 4:25pm
Arizona at San Francisco, 4:25pm
St. Louis at Seattle, 4:25pm
Green Bay at Minnesota, 4:25pm
Miami at New England, 4:25pm
Kansas City at Denver, 4:25pm
Dallas at Washington, 8:20pm

In the spirtit of competiton I'm posting my true picks. Good luck all.

[IndySam]

Even with Cormier's crying and Hoffman's blatant cheating by changing picks after the 1:00 deadline, I still kicked their butts

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by IndySam

Even with Cormier's crying and Hoffman's blatant cheating by changing picks after the 1:00 deadline, I still kicked their butts

I didn't change picks after the deadline. They were submitted on my computer at 12:59 PM, and none of the games had even kicked off. I don't know why CD indicates the edits posted at 1:06 PM. Believe what you will, but graciously pound salt while doing it.

Edit - I know why it shows 1:06 - I added the editorial commentary for select games after the fact.

PM-based submissions next year please, Ed. Or better for you and us, start a free Yahoo pickem league and let it run the show, automatic scoring and all. I believe the system keeps everyone's picks blind until after gametime. I'd prefer it be that way all year.

It also helps keep CD free of chit-chat/games type clutter.