Frisbees for Ultimate Ascent

[malay_shashank]

Originally Posted by Dan Richardson

What is the most significant differences. The ones we purchased for Robot in 3 Days are 175g which was the only difference based on pure description? FIRST lists them as +/- 5g so it's in spec.

Dan

The FIRST Frisbee is 180 +/- 5g, but regulation frisbees (175g) are usually +/- 2g, so that's more variation than is specified in the rules. My recommendation would be to buy game-specific discs.

Thank you all for the very helpful responses! That's one small crisis averted very quickly

[Dan Richardson]

Originally Posted by malay_shashank

The FIRST Frisbee is 180 +/- 5g, but regulation frisbees (175g) are usually +/- 2g, so that's more variation than is specified in the rules. My recommendation would be to buy game-specific discs.

Thank you all for the very helpful responses! That's one small crisis averted very quickly

Thanks, the problem for us is that we are building a robot in 3 days as part of a challenge. Discs won't get here in time...

Time to resort to plan b and find a team nearby... :-)

[inkspell4]

Or you could use the First Choice Credits your team will recieve.

[protoserge]

Originally Posted by Ultimatum

Does anyone know how reliable to regular shipping will be from Andy Mark on the frisbees? Is it worth paying for the express shipping ($100!).

Don't waste your team resources on shipping if it's not required. Did you get a KoP today?

I get AM orders shipped from Indiana, to Maryland in 2 days with standard FedEx.





IF FIRST Choice still has frisbees in stock, you can opt for 2 white, 1 red, and 1 blue.

[protoserge]

Originally Posted by malay_shashank

The FIRST Frisbee is 180 +/- 5g, but regulation frisbees (175g) are usually +/- 2g, so that's more variation than is specified in the rules. My recommendation would be to buy game-specific discs.

Thank you all for the very helpful responses! That's one small crisis averted very quickly

All of our KoP Frisbees weighed in at 175g +/-3g, but that could be a scale issue. Go by part number if possible with the FRC game, and get the frisbees that will actually be played with.

[Michael Hill]

WHY CAN'T FIRST USE PRODUCTS IN STOCK IN RETAIL STORES NATIONWIDE?

I've never understood this.

[Siri]

Originally Posted by Ultimatum

Does anyone know how reliable to regular shipping will be from Andy Mark on the frisbees? Is it worth paying for the express shipping ($100!).

You may want to read this first

[ehfeinberg]

Guys, take it from an Ultimate player, all discs are different. Even if they are both Whammo Frisbees, most likely they are not the same.

Whammo produces many different types of Frisbees which all have different weights, sizes, and shapes. Often, the most obvious thing that is different between discs is the shape of the rim. The angle between the rim and the bottom of the disc is different in almost every different type of disc. Also, I noticed that these discs are much rounder than a regulation disc (The top is round compared to a regulation disc's top being flat).

Also the weight of the game discs are 180 grams, where as regulation discs are only supposed to be 175 grams. While this 5 gram difference in weight does not seem like much, I can easily feel and see a difference in how the discs fly. A heavier disc takes more angular momentum to spin at the same speed and it also flies farther.

It's a shame that FRC choose Whammo discs as the game pieces. It would have been one thing for them to use regulation Whammo discs, but these discs are just useless for everything but Ultimate Assault.

When a Ultimate player holds a Whammo in his hands, he just wants to chuck it at something and break the disc. We hate Whammos.

[protoserge]

Most likely, it allows FIRST to keep tabs on supply, and provide enough quantity to teams through direct-ordering versus having thousands of retail and independent stores trying to restock their shelves as fast as they are disappearing.

[Jay O'Donnell]

Originally Posted by ehfeinberg

It's a shame that FRC choose Whammo discs as the game pieces. It would have been one thing for them to use regulation Whammo discs, but these discs are just useless for everything but Ultimate Assault

That's like saying basketball players last year thought the balls last year were useless. FIRST isn't trying to match Ultimate Frisbee completely, just use it as a theme. Also, if exact regulation Frisbees were used, sone Human Players would be insanely good at scoring(they still will be). I do agree with you that the small weight difference is something ultimate players will have to get used to, but that's part of the game.

[scaryone]

Originally Posted by Jay Money 1058

That's like saying basketball players last year thought the balls last year were useless. FIRST isn't trying to match Ultimate Frisbee completely, just use it as a theme. Also, if exact regulation Frisbees were used, sone Human Players would be insanely good at scoring(they still will be). I do agree with you that the small weight difference is something ultimate players will have to get used to, but that's part of the game.

It's not just the weight. The rim is dramatically different. However, since the barrier is so high, flicking or backhand throws are unlikely. I only see hammers as a reliable throw. Maybe overhead flick.

[F22Rapture]

Originally Posted by inkspell4

Or you could use the First Choice Credits your team will recieve.

Yes, but considering the same frisbees only cost $5.50 non-FC, and cost 8 FC credits, it seems like a ridiculously bad use of credits. I mean, $55 Talons (were) selling for 6, and $180 cameras were selling for 8

[DonRotolo]

Originally Posted by F22Rapture

Yes, but considering the same frisbees only cost $5.50 non-FC, and cost 8 FC credits, it seems like a ridiculously bad use of credits. I mean, $55 Talons (were) selling for 6, and $180 cameras were selling for 8

they could've been selling for 1 credit, but now that they are out of stock, it is irrelevant, eh?

[knuckleduster]

I found some misprints at my house (i ordered a lot of disks at one point) and a few are close enough to the comp disk that they could (possibly) be used to save on game pieces. All the actual design would have to rely on the actual game pieces but it will help.

Also disappointed in the lack of standardized game pieces.

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by knuckleduster

Also disappointed in the lack of standardized game pieces.

Compared to previous years, I would consider this year to be VERY standardized (more than likely, who knows what'll happen as the season goes on). Yes, it's not a standard regulation Frisbee, but look at this year's game piece compared to last year's. Last year, ever so often, no two balls were alike. 2011, tube inflation wasn't regulated as much as it needed to be. 2010, I don't remember, but was there any inconsistency in ball inflation? 2009, well, orbit balls were next to impossible to find