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Where to Start in Autonomous

G6 TEAMS may preload White DISCS in or on the ROBOT before the MATCH.
A. If the ROBOT is in contact with any carpet outside its AUTO ZONE, the ROBOT may preload up to three (3) DISCS.
B. Otherwise, the ROBOT may preload up to two (2) DISCS.

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Re: Where to Start in Autonomous

The auto zone is on the side of the line that contains the pyramid, correct? (blue zone, blue pyramid)

If so, I think it basically depends on how you design in regards to your height, as you can go higher when in your auto zone. IMO this makes it much more appealing to design a shorter robot.(that is, if certain shooter prototyping can produce far enough distances...)
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Re: Where to Start in Autonomous

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The auto zone is on the side of the line that contains the pyramid, correct? (blue zone, blue pyramid)
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AUTO ZONE: an area on either end of the FIELD bounded by the ALLIANCE WALL, FEEDER STATIONS, LOW GOAL, GUARDRAILS, and the nearest AUTO LINE.
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Re: Where to Start in Autonomous

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The auto zone is on the side of the line that contains the pyramid, correct? (blue zone, blue pyramid)

If so, I think it basically depends on how you design in regards to your height, as you can go higher when in your auto zone. IMO this makes it much more appealing to design a shorter robot.(that is, if certain shooter prototyping can produce far enough distances...)
Correct. Anything behind the line (and the pyramid) means you can hold 3 disks, anything infront of the line limits you to 2.

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Re: Where to Start in Autonomous

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The auto zone is on the side of the line that contains the pyramid, correct? (blue zone, blue pyramid)

If so, I think it basically depends on how you design in regards to your height, as you can go higher when in your auto zone. IMO this makes it much more appealing to design a shorter robot.(that is, if certain shooter prototyping can produce far enough distances...)
Not entirely true. Compare these rules:

<G05>
When placed on the FIELD, each ROBOT must be:
D. contacting its PYRAMID.

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TEAMS may preload White DISCS in or on the ROBOT before the MATCH.
A. If the ROBOT is in contact with any carpet outside its AUTO ZONE, the ROBOT may preload up to three (3) DISCS.

<G22>
ROBOT height (as defined in relation to the ROBOT) must be restricted as follows during the MATCH:
A. If in contact with the carpet in its AUTO ZONE and/or its PYRAMID, 84 in.


Theoretically, you could start on the corner of your Pyramid, touching it, your Auto Zone carpet, and non-Auto Zone carpet ...allowing you to be 84" tall and have 3 pre-loads. So the 2 vs. 3 preload issue is not a direct decision based on robot height. (It might be based on whether you can successfully score from the required position, but 84" and 3 preloads are not mutually exclusive.)
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Re: Where to Start in Autonomous

So what do initial strategy sessions say. Where will your team be starting? Where do you think most teams will be starting?
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Re: Where to Start in Autonomous

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Re: Where to Start in Autonomous

The way I interpret this is if you want to start with three discs you need to be a. touching the pyramid and b. partially behind the pyramid, which if you need to line up your shot (i.e. not move before shooting) it makes it difficult to shoot at the high goal since you would have to shoot through the pyramid or potentially "around" it. If you can't reach the high goal with these constraints then I would think you are better off with two disc shooting the high goal from a closer range then three discs at the middle goal from further away. Both would potentially get you 12 points.

Of course depending on your robot your mileage may vary :-)
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