Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!

[jason701802]

Originally Posted by Wildcats1378

From my understanding, I believe that is considered climbing more then 2 levels at a time. you can't touch a bar above the first rung from the ground, etc. since you would be in 3 zones at once.

There is nothing prohibiting your robot from being in more than two zones at the same time, just touching the pyramid in more than two zones. The robot to which you are referring does not make a legal climb because it does not touch the bars in sequential order.

[jvriezen]

So will some team build a bot that can climb to the point of being solely supported by the disk on top of the goal (either by hanging from it or sitting on top of it.) Why would you do this? "Because its there."

[protoserge]

Originally Posted by jvriezen

So will some team build a bot that can climb to the point of being solely supported by the disk on top of the goal (either by hanging from it or sitting on top of it.) Why would you do this? "Because its there."

I see your challenge and raise you! Quite literally, I raise your robot above mine!

I'm kidding, of course...

[BlueNova]

I'm officially loving this game!
Here are my predictions.

Driving and Aiming: I think we are going to see a lot of fast west coast drives trains. There isn't very much emphasis on being able to strafe this year (as compared to games like Logomotion). I also think we are going to see a lot of rotating turrets.

Scoring Frisbees: It's all about accuracy. The frisbees are going to be difficult to pick up off the ground, and I don't think there will be many just rolling around. Basically, if you get possession of a frisbee, you had better score it in A goal.

The End Game: Climbing is a must. Most, if not all, of the frisbees will be scored by this point in the game, and Climbing will be a very effective way of getting ten or twenty points. That being said, I don't think we are going to see very many teams scoring thirty points by climbing.
As for the colored disks, I think a few teams will score them as they are climbing the ladder (just lob them in, don't worry about spin). I also expect a few Human Players to be a part of a local Ultimate Frisbee Team, and score as much as some robots on their own.

All in all, I think this is going to be a very high scoring, high speed game.

Good Luck!

[j_chen_1676]

Originally Posted by BlueNova

I also expect a few Human Players to be a part of a local Ultimate Frisbee Team, and score as much as some robots on their own.

All in all, I think this is going to be a very high scoring, high speed game.

Looking that the angle at which you're throwing and the pyramids directly in the way, feels like it'll take "mad G skillz" to score frisbee shots as human player.

Agree on the fast paced game, very aggressive too. Not sure how many frisbees will actually be shot. Slow drop in system might mean either starving game or not a chaotic amount of frisbees until all hell breaks loose @ 30 seconds

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by j_chen_1676

Looking that the angle at which you're throwing and the pyramids directly in the way, feels like it'll take "mad G skillz" to score frisbee shots as human player.

Consider what happens if you accidentally hit an opponent's climbing robot...

[joelg236]

Not sure if anyone would find this useful, but I made a cleaner version of the field picture to use for showing strategies and whatnot. Useful for the first week and competition. http://i.imgur.com/kC2md.png

[Anupam Goli]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

Consider what happens if you accidentally hit an opponent's climbing robot...

Alright, better start practicing my hammer throws... oh wait, I'm on the college club, not in high school.


I'm not going to be the only one saying this, but there will be a team out there that will have done enough testing and enough feedback control to be able to succesfully get a frisbee on top of the pyramid. It's not only entirely possible, but can be down to extrapolating a few hundred data points. Also, my team wants to try this out.

[Joon Park]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

Consider what happens if you accidentally hit an opponent's climbing robot...

Actually, there's nothing in the rules as far as I can see that would penalize you for that. Now that I've said this, I'm sure it'll be fixed.

Also, I'm going to have to disagree with the optimistic human player predictions. I'm the best ultimate player in an 80 student team, and I feel like I would have a very hard time getting one in a goal in 30 seconds with an infinite number of discs, nevermind in a real game situation. Throwing a hammer almost 54ft over a 6.5ft wall accurately seems difficult, to say the least.

[Radical Pi]

Originally Posted by Joon Park

Actually, there's nothing in the rules as far as I can see that would penalize you for that. Now that I've said this, I'm sure it'll be fixed.

Nope.

Originally Posted by G16

TEAMS and/or ROBOTS may not employ strategies that use DISCS to either aid or inhibit a ROBOT CLIMB.

Violation: TECHNICAL FOUL. If the DISC(S) inhibits an opponent’s CLIMB attempt, the opponent ROBOT’S ALLIANCE is awarded points for a successful Level 3 CLIMB.

[Joon Park]

Oh goodie, my extreme fear of hitting opposing robots as human player has returned. Just another good reason not to expect points from human players.

[BlueNova]

Originally Posted by Joon Park

Also, I'm going to have to disagree with the optimistic human player predictions. I'm the best ultimate player in an 80 student team, and I feel like I would have a very hard time getting one in a goal in 30 seconds with an infinite number of discs, nevermind in a real game situation. Throwing a hammer almost 54ft over a 6.5ft wall accurately seems difficult, to say the least.

Why would you throw Hammer? It is great for distance, but you can't do it accurately. Just practice Backhand throws with a curve to the left.

[Joon Park]

Originally Posted by BlueNova

Why would you throw Hammer? It is great for distance, but you can't do it accurately. Just practice Backhand throws with a curve to the left.

I'd hate for this thread to become an ultimate discussion, but...

I can't imagine a high-release backhand over the alliance wall will make it very far. And hammers tend to be pretty accurate if you ask me. Maybe I'm just odd, but my hammers are actually more accurate than my backhands.

[Redo91]

I do not believe you will need to worry about hitting the opposing team robots trying to climb their pyramid so much as alliance members trying to climb.

[Patrick Chiang]

Originally Posted by Joon Park

I'd hate for this thread to become an ultimate discussion, but...

I can't imagine a high-release backhand over the alliance wall will make it very far. And hammers tend to be pretty accurate if you ask me. Maybe I'm just odd, but my hammers are actually more accurate than my backhands.

Hmmm? Backhands are usually the accurate method for most beginners. Even after I learned how to do forehand, I still find it more accurate/powerful (though slower). TBH, I've never seen anyone able to hammer with any real accuracy.