Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!

[BlueNova]

Originally Posted by Joon Park

Also, I'm going to have to disagree with the optimistic human player predictions. I'm the best ultimate player in an 80 student team, and I feel like I would have a very hard time getting one in a goal in 30 seconds with an infinite number of discs, nevermind in a real game situation. Throwing a hammer almost 54ft over a 6.5ft wall accurately seems difficult, to say the least.

Why would you throw Hammer? It is great for distance, but you can't do it accurately. Just practice Backhand throws with a curve to the left.

[Joon Park]

Originally Posted by BlueNova

Why would you throw Hammer? It is great for distance, but you can't do it accurately. Just practice Backhand throws with a curve to the left.

I'd hate for this thread to become an ultimate discussion, but...

I can't imagine a high-release backhand over the alliance wall will make it very far. And hammers tend to be pretty accurate if you ask me. Maybe I'm just odd, but my hammers are actually more accurate than my backhands.

[Redo91]

I do not believe you will need to worry about hitting the opposing team robots trying to climb their pyramid so much as alliance members trying to climb.

[Patrick Chiang]

Originally Posted by Joon Park

I'd hate for this thread to become an ultimate discussion, but...

I can't imagine a high-release backhand over the alliance wall will make it very far. And hammers tend to be pretty accurate if you ask me. Maybe I'm just odd, but my hammers are actually more accurate than my backhands.

Hmmm? Backhands are usually the accurate method for most beginners. Even after I learned how to do forehand, I still find it more accurate/powerful (though slower). TBH, I've never seen anyone able to hammer with any real accuracy.

[PayneTrain]

I have to say that I do not envy those behind the glass this year. Hanging a robot six-seven feet in the air makes me sick just thinking about it. If my robot fell during a match I might need more medical attention than the robot.

*shudders*

Can't believe FIRST finally decided to dive into discs as the game pieces; I never thought they would ever see a competition.

Sitting back and listening to my team today, I can say that for most teams, no, climbing will not be as easy as you think. And to the rookies, may Dean have mercy on your soul. This is not a picnic.

[gabrielau23]

Originally Posted by Patrick Chiang

Hmmm? Backhands are usually the accurate method for most beginners. Even after I learned how to do forehand, I still find it more accurate/powerful (though slower). TBH, I've never seen anyone able to hammer with any real accuracy.

I've seen it before. Especially since I'm the "gunner" on my ultimate team. Basically we have a guy who throws hammers EXTREMELY well, everybody else clears out, and they chuck one to me long since I'm kinda fast. I can tell you right now he usually puts it right ON THE SPOT, and in ways that a backhand couldn't reach.

[Anupam Goli]

Originally Posted by gabrielau23

I've seen it before. Especially since I'm the "gunner" on my ultimate team. Basically we have a guy who throws hammers EXTREMELY well, everybody else clears out, and they chuck one to me long since I'm kinda fast. I can tell you right now he usually puts it right ON THE SPOT, and in ways that a backhand couldn't reach.

It just takes a lot of practice to make accurate throws. Though, i'm not sure if a normal human would be able to place an accurate backhand over the human player wall.

[ehfeinberg]

Didn't realize so many people on CD play Ultimate!

The hammer throw over the wall is going to be extremely difficult to make! Hammer throws tend to just go and float down making it extremely difficult to hit a vertical target. If people still want to make that throw, I think a scoober or thumber might be better because they tend to fly more horizontal.

I honestly think that Ultimate players will have more luck with a High release, OI flick which will go out, then over the wall and curve into one of the goals. If you do it right, it could roll on the backboard possibly giving you a better shot.

Still, probably not going to happen.

[Anupam Goli]

If someone where to have a godlike chickenwing throw, I could see consistent scores, but I've only seen 3 people even be able to make that throw accurately, and they won't traverse very far in the field.

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Wing

It just takes a lot of practice to make accurate throws. Though, i'm not sure if a normal human would be able to place an accurate backhand over the human player wall.

That sounds like iteration in robot-speak.

[sebflippers]

looking at this image
http://i.imgur.com/kC2md.png
it seems like there is enough space to flick it on one side of the field or backhand on the other side. But the rules say we can shoot it over the barrier. It doesn't say anything about shooting around.

[ratdude747]

Originally Posted by sebflippers

looking at this image
http://i.imgur.com/kC2md.png
it seems like there is enough space to flick it on one side of the field or backhand on the other side. But the rules say we can shoot it over the barrier. It doesn't say anything about shooting around.

Actually, they sorta do. There is a net on each side of the field to keep stay shots from going into the stands. The field video tour said they would try to keep it 3 ft. from the guardrail but some venues may be as tight as 1.5 feet.

If you think there's enough room, Ask Q/A.

[Redo91]

G35
DISCS may be fed onto the FIELD only under the following circumstances:

during TELEOP through the FEEDER SLOTS and
during the last thirty (30) seconds of TELEOP over the FEEDER STATIONS.


Violation: FOUL

It seems that you can only throw them over the feeder station wall.

[TRIron95]

Does anyone know how far back the alliance wall is from the autoline or centerline? The manual says "The alliance station extends 10ft back from the alliance wall, and spans the entire width of the wall." I'm drawing a 3D model of the field and am a bit confused. Thanks!

[pacoliketaco]

So I see a lot of people talking about how to throw over the wall, but has anyone else tried it? My dad and I just made out of pvc the middle goal, so that the opening is at the right height and size, took it outside, marked out 60 feet, and started throwing. I immediately went only for hammer throws, as they curve perfectly, starting out at a high release, then curve flat at whatever distance I want, which lets them go straight into the goal. It took a few tries, but I made about 5/20 throws, my first time trying it. If you have one person throwing, the other feeding them disks, I can see human players scoring at least 20-30 points, if not many more.