Retro-reflective tape?

[Ido_Wolf]

Are the vision targets supposed to be included in the kit for 2013?

[engunneer]

you can get it from andymark - see this thread http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh....php?p=1208023

[nathan_hui]

Originally Posted by Ido_Wolf

Are the vision targets supposed to be included in the kit for 2013?

No, but the tape from Andymark will suffice at first. You will want to get the actual tape in the end from 3M - the reflection characteristics may not match the AndyMark supplied tape.

[JohnBoucher]

Originally Posted by nathan_hui

No, but the tape from Andymark will suffice at first. You will want to get the actual tape in the end from 3M - the reflection characteristics may not match the AndyMark supplied tape.

The AndyMark tape is not the same?
AndyMark

[nathan_hui]

The tape specc'ed in the Game Manual is 3M 8830 Silver Marking Film. AndyMark has Reflexite GP020. Not exactly the same, so you could use it at first (same genre of material), but I'd imagine you'd want to test that your system against the stuff that is used in competition.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by nathan_hui

The tape specc'ed in the Game Manual is 3M 8830 Silver Marking Film. AndyMark has Reflexite GP020. Not exactly the same, so you could use it at first (same genre of material), but I'd imagine you'd want to test that your system against the stuff that is used in competition.

AndyMark sells the Reflixite. AndyMark through First Choice also has the 3M tape.

[nathan_hui]

You are right. I stand corrected.

[Joe Ross]

The 27 feet on First Choice looks to be enough for a high goal and a middle goal. Has anyone found another distributor?

[WizenedEE]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

The 27 feet on First Choice looks to be enough for a high goal and a middle goal. Has anyone found another distributor?

I'm going to echo this question. Our team quickly used up all of our FIRST choice credits before everything was gone and then realized we needed the tape. We are now trying to get the tape off of a local team, but it would be nicer if we could buy it from somewhere. The 3M site is impossible to navigate, but has anyone found a source?

[adciv]

http://www.ironhorsesafety.com/ has it. Be warned, it's $590/roll and I don't know if they sell it in less than that.

[Nate Laverdure]

Maybe http://www.metlon.com/ordering-info/8830.htm

[rm -rf /]

Originally Posted by WizenedEE

I'm going to echo this question. Our team quickly used up all of our FIRST choice credits before everything was gone and then realized we needed the tape. We are now trying to get the tape off of a local team, but it would be nicer if we could buy it from somewhere. The 3M site is impossible to navigate, but has anyone found a source?

It's not clear to me what 3M/FIRST were thinking when they spec'd this. They might as well be using unicorn tail or griffin flight feathers - they'd be easier to find.

It would have been good if 3M could have made this available through their web store, or seeded some distributors with the product.

I don't really understand why it's only available for credits and not cash at Andy Mark.

[MechEng83]

Originally Posted by rm -rf /

It's not clear to me what 3M/FIRST were thinking when they spec'd this. They might as well be using unicorn tail or griffin flight feathers - they'd be easier to find.

It would have been good if 3M could have made this available through their web store, or seeded some distributors with the product.

I don't really understand why it's only available for credits and not cash at Andy Mark.

QFT

I'm trying to find this too and having as good of luck as anyone else.

[CalTran]

Originally Posted by rm -rf /

I don't really understand why it's only available for credits and not cash at Andy Mark.

IIRC, most of the AM FIRST Choice stuff is donated.

[Joe Ross]

I sent an email to AndyMark saying we'd buy 50 feet, if they carried it. Maybe if enough people offer to buy some, AndyMark will buy a case.