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I like the term "waitpool".
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Well, it is somewhat ordered. Rookies get first priority, and then it goes by teams registered for the least number of events.
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7 Ontario teams just dropped out from these events:
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GTR East: 188 886 919 1219 1246 1605 2185 2198 Montreal: 1246 Waterloo: 188 4647 4677 4691 GTR West: 886 2185 Pity to see all these teams missing, in particular 188, a perennial powerhouse. Last edited by Gregor : 07-01-2013 at 22:25. Reason: Missed Montreal |
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I think the idea of super regionals is frankly, a scary one. You would create massive scheduling nightmares and severely affect the average team's budget if they made it that far. At this point in time, it seems almost nebulous. For the time being you can still easily allocate slots to teams right off of their single or multi-state district competitions rankings. Don't go trying to turn FRC on its head, just direct it to a more sustainable growth model. |
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Don't expect to see it happen too terribly quickly, but I'm sure it will happen. There are potential issues with volunteers in the area if you suddenly have to support a larger number of district events (especially in the key volunteer roles like Lead Robot Inspector or Head Ref).
Next, how do you handle teams that don't easily fall into a region? There are still areas with very low FRC population density. For those areas, teams would need to travel for 2 district events, plus the district champs, plus champs, or find a regional farther away to attend. Today, they are likely traveling to their nearest regional, which could be in an area that could be converted to districts. Based on the growth maps in the first post to this thread, there are clearly areas of the country where this wouldn't be much of an issue... but there are also areas where it would be. |
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Remembering that some team attrition is normal...
The Canadian teams missing now from last year are: 188 Toronto, ON, Canada 843 Oakville, ON, Canada 886 North York, ON, Canada 919 Toronto, ON, Canada 1009 North York, ON Canada 1053 Ottawa, ON, Canada 1219 Toronto, ON, Canada 1221 Mississauga, ON, Canada 1246 Scarborough, ON, Canada 1404 Toronto, ON, Canada 1514 Toronto, ON, Canada 1535 Sault Ste Marie, ON, Canada 1605 Toronto, ON Canada 1835 Toronto, ON, Canada 2076 Toronto, ON Canada 2185 Toronto, ON 2198 Toronto, ON, Canada 3531 Montreal, QC, Canada 3739 London, ON, Canada 3978 Montreal, QC Canada 3980 Montreal, QC Canada 4022 Waterdown, ON Canada 4062 Ste-Genevieve, QC Canada 4094 Angus, ON Canada 4147 Yarmouth, NS Canada 4236 mississauga, ON Canada 4248 Whitby, ON Canada 4249 Brampton, ON Canada 4250 Cobourg, ON Canada 4258 Markham, ON Canada 4307 Ajax, ON Canada 4308 Mississauga, ON Canada 4357 Port Hope, ON Canada 4367 Mississauga, ON Canada A defunct veteran team tried to return but dropped: 2609 Guelph, ON Canada (last played in 2011) Also rookies who registered then dropped out were from: Calgary, AB Canada Calgary, AB Canada Westlock, AB Canada Shawnigan Lake, BC Canada Tecumseh, ON Canada Richmond Hill, ON Canada Mississauga, ON Canada Last edited by Mark McLeod : 09-01-2013 at 14:28. |
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Thanks for these.
Keep in mind that any missing teams not located in Ontario are unaffected by the labour issues. |
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Mark do you have numbers for teams lost in a specific region with the number of teams similar to the number of Canadian teams?
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I can probably find a similar area team-#-wise, but I think using Ontario last year might have more relevance, due to economic/societal/government/union/etc. differences.
This year's Ontario team loss is quite a bit higher than last year - about 22% higher. In 2012 there were 78 Ontario teams. An overall gain of 20% on the previous season. 10 teams were lost. Between 2012 and 2013 there was only a one team difference in potential rookies dropping out, so that's probably not significant. So, in Ontario that translates into a 15.4% loss of veteran teams in 2012. By the way, that was about 6% worse than the average veteran loss. Currently, for 2013 there are 29 teams missing and 72 registered. An overall loss of 7.6%. So in 2013 there is a 37.2% loss of veteran teams. Almost 29% worse than the across-the-board average veteran team loss of 8.5%. The # of rookie teams was very similar- 21 in 2012 vs. 23 in 2013. Here are the Ontario teams that didn't play in 2012, but did play in 2011: 1006 Port Perry, ON, Canada 1312 Walkerton, ON, Canada 2361 Richmond Hill, ON, Canada 2609 Guelph, ON, Canada 2670 Toronto, ON, Canada 3040 Toronto, ON, Canada 3563 Innisfil, ON, Canada 3590 Toronto, ON, Canada 3664 Burlington, ON, Canada 3698 Mississauga, ON, Canada Almost 2012 rookies who didn't stick around: Mississauga, ON Canada Toronto, ON Canada Last edited by Mark McLeod : 09-01-2013 at 14:34. |
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According to their twitter account, 188 is back in business.
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Fixed it for you. I suspect they're working on the angle of getting a waiver from the union to participate that I've heard rumours of
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It would be very sad if 188 is not able to compete. They are one of the Grand Old teams we have played with over the years, always a great example for other teams to follow.
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Short of "forcing" new events in these areas and hoping new teams start up with them I'm not sure how FIRST is going to effectively move the District system into these areas on their timeline. I think it can happen in the future but 2015 is an ambitious goal for these regions. Quote:
If only there were teams there... |
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