Entering goal

[Basel A]

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but if the field includes the low goal and the low goal includes the chains, then the chains are in the field of play and can be touched without penalty. Looking at that logical chain, the only part of which I'm unsure is that the chains are part of the goal.

2.2.3: Each ALLIANCE’S LOW GOAL is located adjacent to the opponent ALLIANCE WALL and to the opponent DRIVERS’ left. The opening of the LOW GOAL is 29 in. wide and 24 in. tall. The bottom edge of the LOW GOAL is located 19 in. from the playing surface of the FIELD.

3.1.5.1:
A DISC is considered SCORED in an ALLIANCE’S GOAL if any part of the DISC has crossed through the opening of the GOAL, is in the GOAL at the end of the MATCH, and is not in contact with any ROBOT from that ALLIANCE.

6.1:
GOAL: a FIELD element in which DISCS are SCORED to earn points for an ALLIANCE.
. . .
LOW GOAL: the GOAL located between a FEEDER STATION and ALLIANCE WALL.

Emphases mine. If DISCS are scored in the GOALS, then the GOAL has an inside, which I believe can be assumed to include the chains. The idea that the GOALS have an opening that is parallel to the field wall suggests that this boundary is only the beginning of the GOAL and that there is more goal past that boundary.

[nighterfighter]

Originally Posted by Basel A

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but if the field includes the low goal and the low goal includes the chains, then the chains are in the field of play and can be touched without penalty. Looking at that logical chain, the only part of which I'm unsure is that the chains are part of the goal.







Emphases mine. If DISCS are scored in the GOALS, then the GOAL has an inside, which I believe can be assumed to include the chains. The idea that the GOALS have an opening that is parallel to the field wall suggests that this boundary is only the beginning of the GOAL and that there is more goal past that boundary.

The low goal is defined as part of the field, due to what Gary Voshol stated.

If this definition of low goal IS true, and follows over to high goals, then touching the chains should be legal, assuming the robot does not get entangled.

[GaryVoshol]

It's certainly worthy of a Q&A: "Are the chains part of the goal and on the field, or are they outside the field?" I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

[danopia]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

It's certainly worthy of a Q&A: "Are the chains part of the goal and on the field, or are they outside the field?" I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Just going off instinct, I'd have to say that the field ends at the field's walls, as that's how the playing area is measured; the chains are beyond this wall, so they're probably going to be outside of the field. Just an assumption, though.

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by nighterfighter

The low goal is defined as part of the field, due to what Gary Voshol stated.

If this definition of low goal IS true, and follows over to high goals, then touching the chains should be legal, assuming the robot does not get entangled.

The middle and high goals are both located above the 84" height limit, so no legal robot would be able to enter our touch the chains inside them regardless.

[z_beeblebrox]

Why would you want to go in instead of dropping the discs in from just outside?