Team Update 2013-01-11

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Johnbot

G18-1 says you can't build a strategy around causing a foul. Last year, you could ram teams into your bridge on your way to the bridge, and they would get a Technical Foul. However, if you purposefully pushed them from their key into your bridge repeatedly, you would be in trouble.

That was my point. Prior to G18-1 you could force the infraction. Now you can't anymore, and if the refs think that was what you were trying to do, you get the T.

[Johnbot]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

That was my point. Prior to G18-1 you could force the infraction. Now you can't anymore, and if the refs think that was what you were trying to do, you get the T.

You still can force it, you just can't do it in a way that you make a strategy around it.
Say you are heading towards your pyramid, and a defender blocks you. Once the defender realizes that you have more pushing power, he might try to back off. As he tries to retreat, and you push him into your pyramid, the infraction remains, as you were trying to get to your pyramid.

[|DELTA|]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

G18-1: good.

Now I can tell you how I would have broken the game. Suppose I'm on Red. I have a bulldozer bot. I push Blue bots around at will. Including pushing Blue into a fellow Red bot while that bot is attempting to climb the pyramid. Quick 30 points for our side, and Blue gets a red card. If it was the elimination round, Red would automatically win.

What remains to be seen is which rule takes precedence, G18-1 or G30. G18-1 says you can't cause a foul; G30 says it's a foul regardless of who causes it.

hhhmm. yeah, that also seemed a tad ambiguous...

[Wayne Doenges]

What if you are touching your pyramid and shooting at the goal. Another robot positions itself in front of you to block you shots. Now you move forward and hit them while still touching your pyramid. Will they get a penaly or you?

[dtengineering]

There are some minor changes and outstanding questions by by and large, the GDC seems to have done an impressively good job writing the rules this year.

I think this is one of the most "stable" and comprehensive rule sets that I've seen.

Well done GDC!

J

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Wayne Doenges

What if you are touching your pyramid and shooting at the goal. Another robot positions itself in front of you to block you shots. Now you move forward and hit them while still touching your pyramid. Will they get a penaly or you?

Yes :-)